What set would benifit more from the new Fiery Embrace?


 

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Hey all, I've been wondering, with the latest changes to Fire Armor: Firey Embrace, which attack set would actually get the "most" mileage out of it's new mechanic? Has anyone done the calculations yet? I'm assuming this for either a Scrapper or Brute.


I mean, in the past, it was always Fire Melee which gained the most benifit, but with the new mechanic in place (the added "fire" damage for 20 seconds on ANY attack vs. a simple dmg boost), I'm not sure if that still holds true.


Any thoughts or experience here?


 

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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
Since FE's additional damage will benefit from damage buffs, sets with strong damage buff (e.g. SS, Dark Melee, and Kinetic Melee) will get the most out of the additional damage.
Ah, very very good point.


Now, between which AT? Scrapper or Brute? I realize that SS is just for Brutes, but as far as the newest change to FE goes, on average, would Scrappers benifit more from it than Brutes?


 

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Since it adds extra damage at a fixed proportion of the attack's damage scalar, it works just like an attack. Scrappers will do more damage than brutes with it when that scrapper would do more damage without it, and vice versa.

Of course, scrappers can't take Super Strength, so Rage + FE + Foot Stomp is only available to brutes, if that's your cup of tea.

Edited for clarity.


 

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crits don't benefit from FE. FE benefits from rage.

That said scrapper KM > brute KM and because KM is a crappy critical set anyway and siphon power is considerably better on scraps (high buff, plus insta recharge mechanic) it stands to reason (and is the case) that scrapper km/fire > brute km/fire.

When it comes to dm/fire things line up a lot closer. Scrapper will start to put out more damage with about 3 targets in soul drain. So if you consistently get a good number in your SD's the scrapper will do a fair amount more damage. However, like most cases of x/fire the brute is tougher.

elec/fire scrapper > elec/fire brute for damage. LR is just so much better for them.

When it comes to sets that they don't share I can only say this:
my stone/ela kills things faster than my bs/shield, now because /sd is more offensive than /ela it seems logical to concluse that stone/fa > bs/fa (when looking at the "burst" sets available to the two AT's).

SS/fire is pretty much godly, they farm as well or better than spines/fa (showing their aoe potential) and they definitely do a lot more st damage than that scrapper. They likely aren't as high st damage as some x/fa scrappers, but they are a better mix of strong aoe and decent st, with good mitigation. Their flexibility is pretty impressive. Also, lets be honest, double rage+fury+FE is really crazy.

*assuming about 75pts of fury.