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It's Official: I Love Soul Mastery

Carnifax_NA

By Carnifax_NA,
Posted on: 2010-09-20 15:13 in Tankers

 

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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect View Post
This is where your argument doesn't apply to my situation: there are times that, with the Soul attacks included, every single one of my attacks is recharging, including Greater Ice Sword.

When that happens (which requires just the right amount of power spamming), I'm sitting on my thumbs for one or two seconds and usually cast Taunt or Ice Patch or something to pass the time. I have Frozen Fists and Ice Sword and the epic blast and whatever else, and they're not ready to cast by the time Greater Ice Sword comes around. Removing it would make me sit on my thumbs even longer; there is no benefit to not casting it.

Gut it for Boxing? That's quite a stretch, as I'd still have five Enhancement slots to assign somewhere. It sounds to me like you're not suggesting improvements to my character, per sé, but that you just really don't like me having Greater Ice Sword for some reason.
May I ask what your attack chain is? And how you slotted Freezing Touch? I find it odd that you don't have at least Ice Sword recharged at any given time.

I couldn't care less if you use GIS or Jump Kick; all I offer is the data with which you can build, hopefully, a more informed attack chain. Again, the evidence shows GIS is a suck power. I mentioned boxing as an alternative for a *set mule*, and only if you're taking Tough/Weave anyway. I'm certainly never said Boxing is a better alternative for damage, which is the conclusion you seem to have incorrectly drawn.

Edit, after revising my guide, I realized I went into a little more about how much GIS sucks, esp in relation to other tanker "heavy hitters". In case you didn't read the replies:

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...22&postcount=9

Again, if you like the power, have fun with it. Just realize that you can likely do better.

An Offensive Guide to Ice Melee

 

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Again, if you like the power, have fun with it. Just realize that you can likely do better.
Optimizing damage on a Tanker is like building a bungee cord out of condoms: technically feasible, but why bother with it if it's not even what it's designed for?

 

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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect View Post
Optimizing damage on a Tanker is like building a bungee cord out of condoms: technically feasible, but why bother with it if it's not even what it's designed for?
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LOL, okay, I see where you're coming from now. I'll stop here.
A quick word on this, as GuyPerfect seems to know what he's doing and I want to back him up. Dave, there is a very large difference between a tank that disregards his damage output and one who simply doesn't optimize it.

A tank who builds to optimize damage will be a decent solo player, but should probably have rolled a brute or scrapper for better results. He will also bring very little to a team, considering he has likely sacrificed the survivability necessary to handle a full team's aggro, and would be better off as a brute or scrapper that at least deals respectable damage.

A tank who disregards his damage output will be a waste of a team spot, as he contributes little and will have trouble holding aggro, especially if there are taunt aura'd scrappers around.

Maybe GuyPerfect doesn't have the recharge for a seamless attack chain. In that case, any attack is better than no attack, GIS included. GIS will certainly be better that cycling brawl or boxing.

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In other news, I'm very pleased with Soul Mastery and am proud to say that this character will never be going back to Arctic.

 

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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
A quick word on this, as GuyPerfect seems to know what he's doing and I want to back him up. Dave, there is a very large difference between a tank that disregards his damage output and one who simply doesn't optimize it.
I wasn't being disparaging w/my last comments, though it may have come off that way. He has a different outlook on how he wants to play his tank than what I provide in my guide and my usual posts on the various boards. That's fine, and I'm going to leave this debate at that. Personally, I see zero reason to sacrifice on offense to become a great tanker (and in fact, I could make many argument just to the opposite), but if that's not your concern, so be it.

An Offensive Guide to Ice Melee