Is a Mastermind better than a bane?


Alkirin

 

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Originally Posted by dmcfarland907 View Post
That is like comparing apples and oranges. Banes can solo certain eb's, however they are sol when it comes to eb's that can unstop like Statesman.
It's the player aided by the build, not the build aided by the player. I'm taking you specifically out of context, because this response leads me to believe that a Bane isn't your type of class.

I got my first 50 villain with a stalker, and I learned how to solo with both my Night Widow and Bane by playing a stealth class. My Bane is slotted barely, not as much as my Night Widow, yet he is capable of soloing a Statesman slightly less than my Night Widow.

My pet peeve is when one person rationalizes that a class or group is or isn't capable of something, because he or she hasn't found his or her way to play with the class or group. Again I say, it's the player aided by the build, not the build aided by the player.

And no, I don't use Mid's. My builds are made on the fly as I do math on what I want out of my character.


 

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Originally Posted by EricHough View Post
When counting DPS don't forget to add in the AE resistance debuff from venom grenade and single target res debuff from surveillance - thats a 20% boost to AE damage (40% for toxic damage which includes every tick of venom grenade after the first) and another 20% boost to a single target like a boss/EB/AV. Just counting the base damage does not show the entire picture, just like with a defender or corruptor.

Comparing a huntsman to a blaster is a bad comparison. Blasters have the highest ranged/AE damage multiplier in the game but have almost no defenses and little to no group buff ability in exchange for that. A Huntsman probably has the second highest ranged damage multiplier (1.0 vs a blasters 1.125 and just ahead of a dominators 0.95) but they get very nice debuffs, extremely strong group buffs and can fairly easily hit the def softcap. A better comparison is to a corruptor - a huntsman is a corruptor with stronger damage, weaker debuffs, roughly equivalent group buffs and a lot more personal defense.

Just as an example - my huntsman is at 46% ranged def, 40% melee def and 30% AE def. He provides his entire group with 21% def to all positions (double stacked manuevers), 30% damage (double stacked assault) and 15% to hit. He stacks arctic breath (patron pool cone) on top of venom grenade for a 35% AE resistance debuff (55% for toxic damage) and can add 20% resistance debuff to a hard target with surveillance. My huntsman also has enough status effect protection that I don't think he has ever been mezzed - although he sometimes gets KB'ed since I only slotted one -KB IO. If you want more defenses you could go with a crab huntsman instead of a bane huntsman - trading the extra def in cloaking device for some fairly nice resistances and tank level status protection in fortification, although you would also lose the extra debuff in surveillance.
You took the word right out of my mouth and included the numbers. Blasters are squishy and cannot solo EB's. Huntsman can. Huntsman bring huge buffs to a group. I took my huntsman to a barracuda SF and we facerolled that SF. Double stacked leadership was much appreciated along with the other buffs. Blasters are fun they are focused in one area. The Huntsman is jack of all trades and master of all. To me an AR blaster is like a sniper or expert marksman. The Huntsman is a field commander with juice.


 

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Originally Posted by Bringer_NA View Post
It's the player aided by the build, not the build aided by the player. I'm taking you specifically out of context, because this response leads me to believe that a Bane isn't your type of class.

I got my first 50 villain with a stalker, and I learned how to solo with both my Night Widow and Bane by playing a stealth class. My Bane is slotted barely, not as much as my Night Widow, yet he is capable of soloing a Statesman slightly less than my Night Widow.

My pet peeve is when one person rationalizes that a class or group is or isn't capable of something, because he or she hasn't found his or her way to play with the class or group. Again I say, it's the player aided by the build, not the build aided by the player.

And no, I don't use Mid's. My builds are made on the fly as I do math on what I want out of my character.
Your pulling one thing out of many. I love my Huntsman. I can solo most things without breaking a sweat, I am an asset on teams, and combined with other buffing/debuffing classes I am an engine of destruction on teams.