Suggestion for Future raid content.

First off, allow me to explain my reason for this thread. Long since Hamidon was given severe beatings and updated, it has long been noted, that the greatest threat to Paragon City and the Rogue Isles... well, he just sits there doing nothing. In fact, he doesn't even show up unless Hero's or Villains entice him out of... well wherever he sits.

Second of all, the Crashed Rikti Ship, very cool idea, well implimented and easy to run. However, again, Ukon Grai just sits there until someone taunts him out of the middle of the ship...

Again Cathedral of Pain, Rularuu sits there, shooting through his shield with his stupidly overpowered regen.

In all of these cases, we are fighting predominantly one large target, with stupid amounts of HP, and in a lot of cases the challenge of the battles isn't an active fight, its just bringing the right types and amounts of debuffs (Cathedral of Pain, I'm looking at you for being so cheaply programmed).

All of these could easily be categorised as Static Targets.

Now, what would be awesome, is some kind of raid, where players actually either

• Engage and defeat a standing army, where waves of enemies will attack players and its upto the players to shift tactics dependant on the enemies attacking. This could easily be a Portal Corp mission, defending portals from Praetorian Warworks and various types of Clockwork troops, Praetors etc, or Devouring Earth monsters trying to get into Praetoria through the underground tunnels (how cool would a GM pegging it down those tunnels look).
• A group of Players actually attacking and infiltrating an area, such as the one in Striga, but where Stalkers could eliminate guards, turn off targeting computers for turrets etc, or attack differing parts of the same structure to divide defending forces etc. This could easily be attached to a structure like the Cimeroran fortress, various Arachnos bases, the aforementioned Striga base and even Grandville.

I just think the game engine and the designers could do HUGE things with the tools at hand, such as being able to slave objectives, like those found in the Halloween Banner event, across zones dynamicially, or create tactical choices like the use of the gun turrets in the Reichsmans Taskforce.

I can think of lots of scenario's, especially with the Incarnate content coming up, where situations and raids like these could be so much more fun than what we have. Don't get me wrong though, I do enjoy the challenge of completing things like the CoP trial and working out what we need, but I'd also like to see more fights decided by players actions rather than just on the numbers behind powers.

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Agreed.

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That is definately a start. I have always felt one of the biggest weaknesses to this game is its raid/TF content. In my opinion endgame raids should not be able to be pugged and completed in 1 hr and that every AV fight amounts to nothing more than tank & spank. I will admit that I havent been on CoP or the Rikti raid, but I did numerous Hami raids (before the changes) and it was sad that after dealing with the nuclei, all that was required of most players was nothing more than spam 1 attack/hold till he was dead. A few times when I had to go to work I just set one attack to autofire and told my wife make sure my toon doesnt log out before Hami is dead.

This may be opening the door to the 500 lb gorilla in the room, but one of the reasons that WoW is so successful is that they have some of the most well designed raids out there. Some are tank & spank but most have interesting mechanics that force everyone in the raid to stay on their toes if you want to see the boss die. I would love to see some more variety show up with the various boss fights in this game.

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Yeah but a lot of us play CoH because we hated raiding in big groups and dishonorable lame and forced grouping. I have 1 or 2 friends but I don't play with complete strangers. Of course the BIGGEST issue is I play at 3am but usually 4-7am when no one is really around to do anything like that. I have NEVER EVER done a task force it this game because of that and my job won't change unless world peace occurs. It would be sad for the incarnate stuff to be tied to grouping when for some of us, we play different and strange hours and might have to just get up a leave at any time and not be able to finish anything. Being able to do the leveling has also been friendly to solo or duo playstyles, that should NOT change.

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