Fire/Shield All Swords Concept Build Improvements?


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Ok I must be a bit slow...how did you get the stamina down below for Mids? I know its coming in I19 (whenever that is) but I was wondering...and wow..thats awesome
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I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
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Whoah! RWZ challenge on the first try!

Mind you, I spent half the fight in the red, and even had to deal with the One with the Shield crash detoggling me, but I made it. Unexpected!

I think with some practice, it might be possible to finish a spawn before the crash, because there was only a badly-injured boss and a drone left at that point. A little more target switching between bosses to take better advantage of all the AoE, and I could do it. On the other hand, a little more target switching between bosses and I might have been dead before I got a chance to crash.

The build has been almost complete for a while now. Most of the Hamios are still level 50. That's the only issue at this point, but it means my melee defense is 44.59% instead of 45%, so I'm getting hit almost 10% more often in melee than I should. I need to finish it up and maybe do some RWZ challenge runs specifically for speed. Surely I can get under 2 minutes.

No video. I certainly wasn't expecting success, and probably got lucky.


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Well, grats. I'm glad the build is working as well as we thought it would


 

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Current build, love fireball but miss Body mastery and never running out of end.


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I wonder, with alternate animations coming in, perhaps Fiery Melee will even add sword attacks for a few of the other powers in the set.


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Hey Werner, did you ever get an I19 build for this character?


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Hey Werner, did you ever get an I19 build for this character?
Sort of. I did a quick respec to take advantage of I19, but didn't reoptimize my slotting and sets. I picked up Hover and Fly to finish up the concept. Hover replaces Combat Jumping. I also added Assault and Tactics, so Tactics gets the Gaussian set. Dropped the Panacea from Health so that I could put two recharges in Build Up. I use the common cardiac alpha to cover my extra endurance needs. I didn't bother with the uncommon since the common is plenty for that purpose, and I don't know what I'll want if I actually reoptimize the build around an alpha slot. Figured it was best to just hold onto the shards until I had a better plan. I'm pretty happy with the results, and I'm playing him more than any of my other characters these days. Anyway, here's the build:

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"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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Whoah! RWZ challenge on the first try!

Mind you, I spent half the fight in the red, and even had to deal with the One with the Shield crash detoggling me, but I made it. Unexpected!

I think with some practice, it might be possible to finish a spawn before the crash, because there was only a badly-injured boss and a drone left at that point. A little more target switching between bosses to take better advantage of all the AoE, and I could do it. On the other hand, a little more target switching between bosses and I might have been dead before I got a chance to crash.

The build has been almost complete for a while now. Most of the Hamios are still level 50. That's the only issue at this point, but it means my melee defense is 44.59% instead of 45%, so I'm getting hit almost 10% more often in melee than I should. I need to finish it up and maybe do some RWZ challenge runs specifically for speed. Surely I can get under 2 minutes.

No video. I certainly wasn't expecting success, and probably got lucky.
Well, with the I19 build with Assault and a little better tactical planning, my second shot at the RWZ challenge was also a success and came in at 1:40. I'm pretty confident I could get it down to 1:30, as the spawn was more spread out than some are, and I made several mistakes. Alas for my fragile ego (), Iggy Kamakaze is under a minute on his Super Strength/Fire Brute. And I'm sure that several of the more solid AoE Scrappers with the spiritual or musculature alpha could put out more damage than I do. Still, I'm pretty happy. The build is working great for me despite the compromises for concept (poor DPS chain, no heal, Hover instead of Combat Jumping).

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That build makes me want to try another Valkyrior character as an FM/SD.


I didn't want to take Blaze Mastery because it wouldn't fit the concept. The most she's about is wielding holy armaments. Stuff like Char, Fireblast, and etc. wouldn't even match until APPs get Power Customization.

In place of Blaze Mastery is Body Mastery. Build loses some Accuracy, 2.5% global Recharge, but gains a slight amount of HP and is at over 300% Regen. You've made such a great build for me to work off from! I might actually go with this character someday.
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Fire Sword -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Hectmb-Dam%(5), T'Death-Dam%(7)
Level 1: Deflection -- HO:Enzym(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(9), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(27), LkGmblr-Def(40), LkGmblr-Rchg+(40), SW-ResDam/Re TP(42)
Level 2: Battle Agility -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(11), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(13), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(17), RedFtn-Def(23)
Level 4: True Grit -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Numna-Heal/Rchg(9), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Numna-Heal(15), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(15)
Level 6: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(17), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(27), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(29), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(29), GSFC-Build%(31)
Level 8: Hover -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(39)
Level 10: Active Defense -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(11), HO:Enzym(37)
Level 12: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(25), Zephyr-ResKB(37)
Level 14: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 16: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Fire Sword Circle -- Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(19), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(21), Armgdn-Dam%(21), FotG-ResDeb%(23)
Level 20: Tough -- ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpSkn-ResDam/Rchg(43), ImpSkn-EndRdx/Rchg(43), ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), ImpSkn-Status(45)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 24: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Weave -- HO:Enzym(A), HO:Enzym(43)
Level 28: Grant Cover -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(39)
Level 32: Greater Fire Sword -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(33), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(33), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), T'Death-Dam%(34)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(39)
Level 38: Super Speed -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 47: Whirlwind -- KinCrsh-Dmg/KB(A), KinCrsh-Acc/KB(48), KinCrsh-Rchg/KB(48), KinCrsh-Rechg/EndRdx(50), KinCrsh-Dmg/EndRdx/KB(50), KinCrsh-Acc/Dmg/KB(50)
Level 49: One with the Shield -- GA-3defTpProc(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A), Panac-Heal/EndRedux(42), Panac-Heal/Rchg(45), Panac-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(46), Panac-Heal(46), Panac-Heal/+End(48)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(25), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(34), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(40), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(42), P'Shift-End%(46)



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I get away with Fire Blast and Fire Ball because, y'know, demon. But it should put out decent AoE even without Fire Ball, and it'll certainly be more survivable with the greatly increased regeneration. It's hard to recommend a build like this, because it's a gigantic sum of influence for something so terribly compromised, but I DO so love mine.


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It all comes down to entertainment. I would be greatly entertained by a concept character like this.


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I get away with Fire Blast and Fire Ball because, y'know, demon. But it should put out decent AoE even without Fire Ball, and it'll certainly be more survivable with the greatly increased regeneration. It's hard to recommend a build like this, because it's a gigantic sum of influence for something so terribly compromised, but I DO so love mine.
...whuh?

How is this "compromised?"

Dammit, I need to un-retire my fa/sd/body and rebuild it into a fa/sd/mu.

So....many....projects....


 

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...whuh?

How is this "compromised?"
Heh. Well, top end Fire/Shield puts out nearly 300 DPS with sustainable endurance. If I recall, I'm down around 200 (can't keep Against All Odds fodder around since I have AoE in my chain), and at least with I18 my endurance wasn't sustainable. I've added quite a bit more endurance consumption since then, but the cardiac alpha might be enough to offset it and then some, so I really should make another pylon attempt. Survivability is also much lower than it could be due to low regeneration and a lack of heal. So it's no AV soloer, and I think I only get through the RWZ challenge with a combination of luck and doing so much AoE that I can finish it before One with the Shield drops.

AoE is the least compromised aspect of it, but could still be improved if it wasn't for concept. I haven't tried to work out any specifics since I won't be doing it, but you'd drop Hover for Combat Jumping, get endurance under control without the cardiac alpha, and then go with either musculature for the straight damage boost or spiritual to spam Build Up and all the AoEs even more often.

I tried to do all that I could given my concept constraints, but a build without those constraints could do much better DPS, have much better survivability, and have a little better AoE.

I also assume that if I rebuilt it around I19 fitness and the alpha slot instead of just tacking them on at the end, that I could make some noticeable improvements that way as well. I probably won't touch it any further until at least I20, though, as I'm satisfied for now.


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"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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