Ouroboros Porthole and Pocket D Not Giving Proper Alignment
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Catastrophe,
Posted on: 2010-09-01 05:52 in Player Questions
Hero and Vigilante should ALWAYS go to the blue Ouroboros because they cannot interact with red contacts.
Villain and Rogue should ALWAYS go to the red Ouroboros because they cannot interact with blue contacts.
This is regardless of where you are, where you have been, or whose portal you click on.
As for losing your tips, this is also intended behavior. For example, if you are a "blue" character doing tips on the red side, but you travel back to a blue zone, including the blue Ouroboros, you will lose those tips.
*Edited for further clarification.
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That's how I understand it too.|
Hero and Vigilante should ALWAYS get the blue Ouroboros. Villain and Rogue should ALWAYS get the red Ouroboros. This is regardless of where you are or where you have een when you use the portal. As for losing your tips, this is also intended behavior. If you are a "blue" character doing tips on the red side, but you travel back to the blue Ouroboros, you will lose those tips. |
I didn't realize the same problem happened in Pocket D and RWZ though.
Pinnacle
@Mr.Catastrophe
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I think they meant that when using the O-portal while in Pocket D, it brought them back to the blueside and lost the tips, even though they entered from the red-side.|
Originally Posted by Catastrophe
That's how I understand it too.
I didn't realize the same problem happened in Pocket D and RWZ though. |
Fusion_7, the side you are on or the side you entered the co-op zone has NO bearing on which Ouroboros you will go to. It's decided by your actual alignment.
You are right Catastrophe, as long as you entered a co-op zone from the redside, and then exited back to the redside, you should not lose your tips.
Remember, Ouroboros is not actually a Travel device. While doing tips on the opposite side, you will have to get to your missions the "old fashioned way". lol
Right on, Ouroboros (and Pocket D teleporter, if not Pocket D entirely) should be avoided if you're in the middle of an alignment change holding Tip missions.
But I'm still hung up on this part:
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To me, that claims if you enter RWZ from redside as a Vigilante holding redside tips, when you exit RWZ back to redside you'll lose the tips. Is that right or am I mis-reading?| The same holds true for the Vanguard portholes going into the RWZ. Should you try and come back out, it will give you opposite zones. |
I don't think co-op zones should act that way, but maybe it's WAI.
Pinnacle
@Mr.Catastrophe
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I took it as meaning that using the O-portal after traveling to those other co-op zones will also give you the blue zones, which is also intended if they are Vigilante.|
Originally Posted by Catastrophe
To me, that claims if you enter RWZ from redside as a Vigilante holding redside tips, when you exit RWZ back to redside you'll lose the tips. Is that right or am I mis-reading?
I don't think co-op zones should act that way, but maybe it's WAI. |
But now that I take another look at it... It appears like they are saying that if you attempt to leave RWZ by using those portholes on the wall, it is giving the wrong side's zones.
Remember Fusion_7, there are TWO portal exits in RWZ. One goes to Paragon City. The other goes to Rogue Isles. Make sure you are in front of the correct one.
As for the Pocket D issue.. I believe it is programmed to ALWAYS give you that warning. It's not telling you that you are about to lose your tips. If you read it closely, you will see that it actually tells you that if you entered PocketD from the Redside and you are going back to the red side, you wont lose your tips.
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This I know. What I meant when I said RWZ portholes was when going through those portholes, if you immediately turn around once your enter the Vanguard base, the porthole will show the opposite zones. I guess what I need to do is run to the other side and exit back through the right porthole rather than just turn around. |
Originally Posted by Master-Blade
Remember Fusion_7, there are TWO portal exits in RWZ. One goes to Paragon City. The other goes to Rogue Isles. Make sure you are in front of the correct one.
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And as for the Ouroboros Porthole, then is it my understanding that until we can complete the "full" alignment and when I say full, I mean that your Villain bar is full and your full title is now a villain and conversely your hero bar full and your title bar now is hero, that we will always get the reverse zone from Ouroboros? And thus, if we intend to use Ouroboros, not to have any tip mission we intend to do? I guess I need to read more up on this.
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Ahh, so it positions you in front of the wrong portal. That's kinda silly. I can see how that would be confusing when trying to use RWZ as a connecting zone. Yeah, it's just a matter of running back over to the correct portal to go back. |
Originally Posted by Fusion_7
This I know. What I meant when I said RWZ portholes was when going through those portholes, if you immediately turn around once your enter the Vanguard base, the porthole will show the opposite zones. I guess what I need to do is run to the other side and exit back through the right porthole rather than just turn around.
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Originally Posted by Fusion_7
And as for the Ouroboros Porthole, then is it my understanding that until we can complete the "full" alignment and when I say full, I mean that your Villain bar is full and your full title is now a villain and conversely your hero bar full and your title bar now is hero, that we will always get the reverse zone from Ouroboros?
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Originally Posted by Fusion_7
And thus, if we intend to use Ouroboros, not to have any tip mission we intend to do? I guess I need to read more up on this.
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There isn't really anything more to it. If you are a Vigilante or Rogue, you will have access to both the blue and redside zones, but you can't cross back and forth at your leisure without losing the tips you got from one side or the other.
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Honestly, I never noticed this, but that is silly. |
Originally Posted by Master-Blade
Ahh, so it positions you in front of the wrong portal. That's kinda silly. I can see how that would be confusing when trying to use RWZ as a connecting zone. Yeah, it's just a matter of running back over to the correct portal to go back.
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I really should check some of this stuff out. I know you won't drop selected missions or your team going through a portal, but Tips is another matter. Of course, you HAVE to drop Tips because many Tips trigger in your current Zone, and it shouldn't be possible to run a blueside Tip in a redside Zone.
I wonder what would happen if you tried to run a Tip IN Pocket D...
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It wont let you use a Tip in any Co-op Zone. You can still earn Tips, but it tells you to go back to Paragon City or Rogue Isles to investigate it.
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Originally Posted by Jade_Dragon
I wonder what would happen if you tried to run a Tip IN Pocket D...
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Thought about posting this in the Technical Issues and Bugs, but I thought that this problem is so blatant, that I could not imagine this being a bug. When you switch sides, lets say from blue side to red side or vice versa, from hero to rouge or vigilante/villain. When you use the Ouroboros Portal to shorten the trip, it will give you the opposite zones. For example, if you're red side and in Grandville and have a tip mission in Port Oaks, I would normally open up the portal to go to Cap au Diable, then catch the ferry from there to Port Oaks. Well, when I get to Ouroboros and then open up the portal there, I will get blues side zones not red side. Conversely when you are switched over to blue side, you will get red side zones via Ouroboros Portal. And you will lose any accumulated tips should you try and go to the opposite zones. The same holds true for the Vanguard portal going into the RWZ. Should you try and come back out, it will give you opposite zones.
If you try and use Pocket D to shorten the trip and exit to your new alignment side, red or blue, you will get that message that says you will lose any current tip missions accrued. So, am I missing something here? Both my toons I have tried this on, my hero to villain and my villain to hero are having the same problems here. Keep in mind that both have not fully integrated over "full all out hero status" or "full all out villain status" yet. Does this have something to do with that, being that both my toons are not 100% aligned just yet and because of this, when traveling via Ouroboros or Pocket D, you will lose your current accumulated tips and Ouroboros will not give you the proper zones?