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KM/SD...is this really that good or only on paper?

Aaron Islander

By Aaron Islander,
Posted on: 2010-08-19 18:01 in Scrappers

 

Posted

Here are the basics

Global recharge: 195%
Damage: Power Siphon + AAO (x4) = 200%
DDR = 70%
Defense: 58% for 15 seconds out of every 23 seconds.

Ghost Widow & Hasten are perma

Shadow Meld is down for 8 sec at a time. So click Meld and Power Siphon and run into group, hit 3-4 singles on boss (this allows fairly developed damage boost along with AAO) then hit shield charge. Along with Ghost Widow, finish what is left.

I know this is all on paper and I havent even rolled this yet. Can it be this good, or am I missing something?

Thanks all and happy hunting,

Aaron

P.S. Mids doesnt seem to want to include AAO in the damage buff. Anyone know why?


Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.803
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Aaron Kinshi: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Kinetic Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Body Blow

  • (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun
  • (11) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun
  • (15) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge
  • (15) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
  • (23) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (23) Damage Increase IO
Level 1: Deflection
  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (3) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (5) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
Level 2: Battle Agility
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (5) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
Level 4: True Grit
  • (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance
  • (19) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge
  • (19) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
  • (21) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
  • (21) Doctored Wounds - Heal
Level 6: Power Siphon
  • (A) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge
  • (7) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  • (13) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
  • (17) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge
  • (17) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance
Level 8: Smashing Blow
  • (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
  • (9) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
  • (9) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
  • (11) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (13) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 10: Active Defense
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 12: Swift
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 14: Aid Other
  • (A) Empty
Level 16: Against All Odds
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 18: Health
  • (A) Miracle - +Recovery
  • (40) Miracle - Heal
  • (40) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
  • (40) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
  • (43) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
Level 20: Phalanx Fighting
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 22: Stamina
  • (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
  • (39) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
  • (39) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (39) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy
Level 24: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (25) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (25) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 26: Focused Burst
  • (A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
  • (27) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
  • (27) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
  • (29) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (29) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
Level 28: Aid Self
  • (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance
  • (37) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge
  • (37) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
  • (46) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
  • (50) Doctored Wounds - Recharge
Level 30: Repulsing Torrent
  • (A) Ragnarok - Damage
  • (31) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
  • (31) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (31) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (34) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
  • (34) Range IO
Level 32: Concentrated Strike
  • (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (33) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (34) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
Level 35: Shield Charge
  • (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
  • (36) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
  • (36) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (36) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (37) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
Level 38: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 41: Dark Blast
  • (A) Apocalypse - Damage
  • (42) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
  • (42) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (42) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (43) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
  • (43) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
Level 44: Shadow Meld
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (45) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (45) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
  • (45) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
  • (46) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (46) Red Fortune - Defense
Level 47: Summon Widow
  • (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
  • (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
  • (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Soulbound Allegiance - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
Level 49: Grant Cover
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Ninja Run



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Posted

Today's build is brought to you by... the color purple.

The only thing that bothers me about the build would be the 8 seconds of defensive downtime and 3 seconds of animation time that would occure during extended fights (ie AVs, pylons) that seems like a lifetime when up against those types of heavy hitters. But if that isn't something you care to do then go for it! It seems very impressive!

 

Posted

My apologies, I should have clarified. This is not intented as a specialized build. If I go AV hunting it would be with a team. If I felt like soloing 2or3/8's I think I could. This build is for general PvE content. If the team lost the tank, I could most definetly take the alpha.

I tend to roll toons and play them until I just get sick of them. So I only have 2 lvl 50's, a lvl 47 and 3 lvl 30's. None of them are built for high recharge. I am defensive minded, so when I put this build together I got a little excited that I could have my cake and eat it also.

Thanks for your reply,

Aaron

 

Posted

How do you get 100% DDR?

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Death_Badger View Post
How do you get 100% DDR?
With the recharge he will be putting out Active Defense will stack and place him at the cap. Though I believe it's cap is 95% and was the intended statement. :-)

 

Posted

According to Mids, You have 52.9% DDR, with one stack of active defense, and around 70% with a second stack, can't see any way with that build you hit anywhere 95% DDR consistently.

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Death_Badger View Post
According to Mids, You have 52.9% DDR, with one stack of active defense, and around 70% with a second stack, can't see any way with that build you hit anywhere 95% DDR consistently.
Membranes?

Oh THAT build... yeah.

 

Posted

I stand corrected. In my haste to post, I included all powers that gave DDR into the Active Defense power. The correct number should indeed be 70.2%. I have corrected my original post.

Thanks for the catch.

Aaron

 

Posted

If you want to solo AVs you're going to need to drastically change your build, without Shadow Meld you're at 26% defense to all positions. In the amount of time it takes for SM to recharge you could be killed very quickly by an AV.

From my understanding, taking Quick Strike is beneficial to building your Power Siphon buff. If I were to build a KM/Shield, it'd look something like this.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.803
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Kinetisist: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Kinetic Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Quick Strike -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(46), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Hectmb-Dam%(48)
Level 1: Deflection -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GA-3defTpProc(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(3), LkGmblr-Def(5), LkGmblr-Rchg+(7)
Level 2: Body Blow -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(19), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(19), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(21), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), T'Death-Dam%(23)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- HO:Enzym(A), LkGmblr-Def(7), LkGmblr-Rchg+(9)
Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 8: True Grit -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Numna-Heal/Rchg(11), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Numna-Heal(17), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(17)
Level 10: Smashing Blow -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(31), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Mako-Dam%(33)
Level 12: Active Defense -- HO:Enzym(A), HO:Membr(13), HO:Membr(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(15), Zephyr-ResKB(15)
Level 16: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 18: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A), Mrcl-Heal(50), Mrcl-Rcvry+(50)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(25), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(27), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(27), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(29), P'Shift-End%(29)
Level 22: Power Siphon -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 24: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 28: Burst -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Oblit-%Dam(43)
Level 30: Boxing -- Amaze-Stun/Rchg(A), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(43), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(45), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(48), Amaze-ToHitDeb%(48)
Level 32: Concentrated Strike -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 38: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(39), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(39), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Aegis-ResDam(40)
Level 41: Weave -- HO:Enzym(A), LkGmblr-Def(42), LkGmblr-Rchg+(42)
Level 44: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(45), HO:Enzym(45)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run



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Virtue: @Santorican

Dark/Shield Build Thread

 

Posted

It's an interesting build. Like you said, fire off Shadow Meld, run in, body blow, smashing blow, body blow, concentrated strike gives 4x PS buffs, then shield charge.

I have to say though, I would find having to spend 3 seconds casting shadow meld every 23 seconds would get really annoying really fast. Plus even with the damage buffs, shield charge isn't going to kill everything. Power Siphon is nice, but it's only really a bit better then buildup for short term. The advantage of Power siphon is that it lasts longer then Buildup. But this build is all about quick finishes, which isn't working to Kin's strength.

Yes, it's got a ton of recharge, but ultimately your giving up too much. I think the build Santorican posted would be much more playable. I personally might build a tiny bit different, but all in all, I think Shadow meld is not really that useful on Def based characters, and only slightly useful on non def characters. it's too short, and takes too long to cast to really be all that. It will be a nice alpa breaker for regen and willpower builds. Otherwise I would skip it.

 

Posted

Got a simple build here, not to expensive (no purples, PVP stuff etc)...softcapped

Any suggestions? possible to solo AVs with it?


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BANG BANG!!!

 

Posted

Its a good effective build, I'm not sure if you'd have enough recharge run a higher chain of BB>SB>QS>BB>SB>CS

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.803
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

From Within: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Kinetic Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Quick Strike -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(3), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(3), T'Death-Dam%(5), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Deflection -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(17), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(19), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFtn-EndRdx(31), RedFtn-Def(33)
Level 2: Body Blow -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(13), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(15), T'Death-Dam%(15), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
Level 4: Smashing Blow -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(9), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Mako-Dam%(11), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 6: True Grit -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Heal-I(42), Heal-I(48)
Level 8: Battle Agility -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(19), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(21), RedFtn-EndRdx(29), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), RedFtn-Def(31)
Level 10: Power Siphon -- RechRdx-I(A), AdjTgt-Rchg(43), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(45)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(34)
Level 16: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 20: Burst -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(21), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(23), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Oblit-%Dam(27), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27)
Level 22: Phalanx Fighting -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 24: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(25), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(25), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(42), P'Shift-End%(43), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(43)
Level 26: Combat Jumping -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 28: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 30: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(34), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(40), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Aegis-ResDam(48)
Level 32: Weave -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), S'dpty-Def(33), EndRdx-I(50)
Level 35: Concentrated Strike -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(36), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Mako-Dam%(36), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(39), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-%Dam(40), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 41: One with the Shield -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(45), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(46), Aegis-ResDam(46), Aegis-Psi/Status(46)
Level 44: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Super Jump -- Zephyr-ResKB(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(50), Zephyr-Travel(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run



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