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Originally Posted by 3dent
Ok, since Posi TF isn't something you either farm or do once per alt and forget about the horror I started to think about exempability to extremely low levels, especially for things like +DEF where enhancement scaling may result in particularly nasty surprises...
So, how exactly enhancement scaling works together with ED cap? Is it that first enhancements are scaled, then ED cap is applied, so that if I have say, 4 levlel 50 common +DefBuff IOs with 102% pre-ED defense buff reduced to 62.3% by ED at level 50. I would have 25.5 * 0.391 * 4 = 39.9% Or is the game applying ED cap first, then scaling down the adjusted value? 62.3 * 0.391 = 24.4% (nearly the same as if the power was just 3-slotted) |
Paragon Wiki: Exemplar Effects on Enhancements
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No, sorry, I've read that page multiple times before posting, it doesn't say anything about this particular point, namely whether ED is calculated before or after scaling due to exemp.|
Originally Posted by Katze
I believe this has the answer you are looking for:
Paragon Wiki: Exemplar Effects on Enhancements |
Or at least it doesn't it in a way I can understand.
Well, sorry, found it. ED is applied after scaling.
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Thanks for helping me.| 4. Apply Enhancement Diversification to your grand totals at the very end. |
Sorry for epic reading comprehension fail.
One small issue with your example: You don't have 102% enhancement, you have four 25.5% enhancements. This is relevant because scaling is applied to each enhancement separately.
Why is this relevant? Because there are two different thresholds (mentioned in the linked article) where, if the enhancement value is below the threshold, and you don't exemplar below the level for that threshold, the enhancement doesn't scale at all.
By picking the right multi-aspect IOs, at the right levels, it's possible to slot a character in such a way that none of their enhancements will scale at all until you reach extremely low levels. This is difficult, and results if fairly low total enhancement values, but it is a valid slotting option.
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Yes. The problem is that for Posi that threshold is just 10% which means that you would need to 5 or 6-slot a power that works fine 3-slotted (say, FF small bubbles) without exemp and get lower values unexemped for your troubles. |
Originally Posted by Roderick
By picking the right multi-aspect IOs, at the right levels, it's possible to slot a character in such a way that none of their enhancements will scale at all until you reach extremely low levels. This is difficult, and results if fairly low total enhancement values, but it is a valid slotting option. |
So I tried to calculate whether just brute-force overslotting has any advantages over being clever.
Well, I think I know what I would do now.
It appears that either straight overslotting or using multi-aspects works equally well (or poorly) but mixing the two in the same power loses to either approach.
So, specifically for FF, I think of frankenslotting Dispersion Bubble with level 20 Def/Ends, and just overslot small bubbles...
If Posi's newfound popularity isn't just a fad like 5thTF, that is. This is a bit too extreme compared to what you should do to keep FF no-loss exempable to 24 (my old target).
I have two stalkers that farm a level 14 mission and I've been trying to come up with decent attack slotting. Procs are looking really good. And that's sad because in general they're not very good.
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Ok, since Posi TF nowadays isn't something you either farm or do once per alt and forget about the horror, I started to think about exempability to extremely low levels, especially for things like +DEF where enhancement scaling may result in particularly nasty surprises...
So, how exactly enhancement scaling works together with ED cap?
Is it that first enhancements are scaled, then ED cap is applied, so that if I have say, 4 level 50 common +DefBuff IOs with 102% pre-ED defense buff reduced to 62.3% by ED at level 50. I would have
25.5 * 0.391 * 4 = 39.9%
Or is the game applying ED cap first, then scaling down the adjusted value?
62.3 * 0.391 = 24.4% (nearly the same as if the power was just 3-slotted)