Bug in RV


ElectroHawk

 

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I was in RV - on Freedom - lots of Vills keeping heroes at bay near hero base - and all of a sudden I was on top of bridge and got pummeled and killed by two dominators, but couldn't see them anywhere - I ended up getting killed twice near the bridge by unseen vills - was baffled. Came out of hospital and other heroes where complaining about being hit by unseen vills. Apparently there's a hole somewhere near hero base that allows toons inside walls - I've seen this on some maps years ago - but these toons could travel all the way inside the hero base, right near the ouside teleporter and kill heroes - WTF - the zone crashed a few minutes later and I'm assuming it has something to do with this bug - it's crashed several times over the last week - anyone know anything about this glitch?


 

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If there is a hole, it doesn't necessarily have to be near the hero base. Somebody could go through a hole near the Villain base (for example) and simply fly under the map to the hero base... but if you were getting killed on the bridge, that's not underground and it's not likely somebody could get inside such a small object. They might have been teleporting you to that location and flying high above you.

If you were referring to under the bridge.. then maybe.. I'm pretty good at finding holes and relog glitches, so I'll go in and take a look at what I can see. Was there any indication of where the power animations were coming from? Could they have been inside a nearby building as well?


 

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sorry - it was on the road that turns into the bridge, they where firing from underneath me - if your under the bridge they where able to fire from wall that supports the bridge - that whole area all the way to the hero base - where the walkway up to the road is - they where definately in the wall - because my pet was able to hit them several times while fireing at wall, and you could see their shots coming out of the wall.


 

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there was a similar bug in the Hollow a year or 2 ago where you could go under the map and attack mobs from under the map without risk of getting hit unless you were too close to the limits of the ground.


 

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Originally Posted by ElectroHawk View Post
there was a similar bug in the Hollow a year or 2 ago where you could go under the map and attack mobs from under the map without risk of getting hit unless you were too close to the limits of the ground.
There's been holes in most every zone. Probably the most famous holes were when Skyway's roof was raised some feet up, allowing you just fly over the war walls, and go under and visit the as-yet-unreleased University, and the other being when Cimerora was first released there were holes all over the map. It was hard to walk to and from Mr. Mission Giver without falling through them


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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!

 

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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight View Post
There's been holes in most every zone.
This is so true, and there are still ways to get outside of several maps that were never fixed. I have yet to find one in RV.. but I have to say I haven't really looked before today either. lol

I know of a way to get under Atlas Park, but that specific location is not available in RV. I found a couple spots that looks like they could have worked for a relog/door trick, but it looks like the War Walls were specifically moved in those location to prevent it. I'm still looking.

I think I might just go under Atlas again and look at the hidden geometry and see if I can find a spot.


 

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Ah... Zone Diving... my favorite past time! I still remember back when I was new to the game (having only... maybe 2 characters? definitely only one above 14!) finding a GIANT hole in Sharkhead... I showed it to a friend and I wanted to go in... but I was afraid of what would happen if I did (would my character get stuck and not be able to get out? Would I die 「debt was a concernt 」? Would my character be deleted 'cause it got corrupted?!?!?). Not sure when it got fixed, but it was pretty huge.


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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!

 

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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight View Post
Ah... Zone Diving... my favorite past time!
Well I still can't find anything unusual. Maybe the people that were killing the OP simply used an old character that had already gone through a hole that no longer exists?


 

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These where 4 current charecters that PvP in RV on Freedom often and tend to target me - that's why I noticed it quickly because they killed me twice and I was on the lookout for them the whole time, looking up/down every which way....was frustrating when it happened in the heat of battling others - I was just battling one of the toons about 5 minutes before they ended up fireing from behind the wall - if you come straight out of the base, under the bridge and keep going, they where able to fire from the entire left wall.


 

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Originally Posted by OIOOIO View Post
These where 4 current charecters that PvP in RV on Freedom often and tend to target me -
My point was that somebody could have logged onto an old character that was already through a previous hole and teleported the rest of his team. Usually teleporting doesn't work down there, but there are glitches to that as well.

And of course there is always the possibility that another hole has opened up that I have not found yet. It took me and another guy about 4 hours to find a hole in Steel Canyon once. I don't spend much time in RV these days, and somebody just killed my blaster as I was flying around searching for ideas, so I stopped looking for today. haha

Maye you'll just want to send a /petition for exploitive behavior for now, and maybe their logs can show the support team how they got down there.


 

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Originally Posted by OIOOIO View Post
These where 4 current charecters that PvP in RV on Freedom often and tend to target me
They could have another character parked outside the geometry and used Recall to bring the others outside as well.

There's also other reasons you could appear outside the map, including a zoning glitch. Once I was zoning into the Hollows and activated teleport at the same time, and when I zoned into the Hollows I was at a seemingly random spot in the zone. I think I might have appeared under the zone and fallen, then hit the teleport net at the bottom and dropped in the restore point, all while the loading screen was still finishing.


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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!

 

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Next time it happens - use /loc to get the coordinates of where you are. If you have the character's name (don't recall if this works still in PV) try... I think it's /targetname or /targetcustom name charactername to see if you can target *them.* Then /bug the location as being near an exploited geometry hole.

The devs *do* jump on things like this, yes, even with PVP. (See the "doorways" in the guard towars, for instance in SC? Stuff like this - being put somewhere inescapable - is why they were put in.)