BillZ was factoring in 90% Fury for Brutes. This is likely the discrepancy you're seeing as Mids default Fury is 0%.
With 90% Fury, I have Midnight Grasp hitting for 578 with Soul Drain set to 1 target. On the Scrapper, same thing- 1 target from Soul Drain, Midnight Grasp is hitting for 1010. If there is that much of a difference without Critical being factored in, then that's unbelievable.
Kain, there's no way that's correct.
In Mids, go to Options, Configuration, the Effects and Math tab, and set Damage to be "ignore extra damage." If you leave it on Show Average it takes crits into account.
Be well, people of CoH.
Thanks BillZ. I had a feeling I missed something. I knew there was no way that could be correct. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Now I am free to make my Brute without looking at Scrapper and going "Oh yeah?"
Been playing too long to make that mistake. lol. I should have known that.
I think the Chance for Build Up proc in tactics is skewing the numbers heavily in the scrapper's favour. If you switch that off you should get a more accurate comparison.
I keep wanting to remove the chances for buildup I have in my main's build, but every time I check it there's a net loss in DPS without them.
Be well, people of CoH.
I have the Chance for BuildUp in my Brute as well. I agree BillZ. I have it in another of my 50's. Not worth removing.
The new build I've been working on is a Dark/Invul Brute. Yes, I said Brute in the Scrapper forum. Looking at the spreadsheet topic above, it says Brute Dark does 143.7 DPS average, and Scrapper Dark does 141.6 DPS average. Now, I created my build and compared both and by the look of it, Scrapper pretty much kicked the Brute build out of the water in terms of damage.
My question is, is this auto-factoring Critical Hit? or no? Whether Crit is toggled on or off, it doesn't show any difference in the damage. Here are the builds.
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Sovereign: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Darkness Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite
- (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
- (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
- (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
- (5) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (5) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (7) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage- (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (13) Titanium Coating - Resistance
- (13) Reactive Armor - Resistance
Level 2: Temp Invulnerability- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance
- (7) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
- (9) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge
- (9) Titanium Coating - Endurance/Recharge
- (37) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (46) Titanium Coating - Endurance
Level 4: Dull Pain- (A) Miracle - Heal
- (11) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (15) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
- (17) Recharge Reduction IO
- (33) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 6: Boxing- (A) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
Level 8: Siphon Life- (A) Touch of the Nictus - Healing
- (11) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing
- (21) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge
- (23) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
- (23) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (25) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
Level 10: Resist Elements- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (15) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (19) Aegis - Resistance
Level 12: Swift- (A) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
Level 14: Health- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (39) Miracle - Heal
Level 16: Unyielding- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
- (17) Titanium Coating - Resistance
- (19) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (39) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge
Level 18: Hasten- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (25) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 20: Maneuvers- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge
- (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 22: Tactics- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
Level 24: Stamina- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
- (29) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (31) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (34) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
- (48) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
Level 26: Soul Drain- (A) Obliteration - Damage
- (29) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
- (31) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
- (33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (34) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 28: Invincibility- (A) Red Fortune - Defense
- (34) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
- (43) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
- (43) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
- (45) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (50) Red Fortune - Endurance
Level 30: Tough- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance
- (31) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (36) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (36) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp- (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (40) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
- (40) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
- (40) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
- (42) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (48) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 35: Tough Hide- (A) Red Fortune - Defense
- (36) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
- (37) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
- (37) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
- (39) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (42) Red Fortune - Endurance
Level 38: Dark Consumption- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
Level 41: Shadow Maul- (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (42) Obliteration - Damage
- (43) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
- (45) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
- (46) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (50) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 44: Weave- (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +3% Res (All)
- (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 47: Petrifying Gaze- (A) Lockdown - Accuracy/Hold
Level 49: Resist Energies- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance
- (50) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
------------Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Celerity - RunSpeed
Level 2: Rest- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 1: Critical HitLevel 0: Ninja Run
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Kaizer: Level 50 Mutation Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Smite
- (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (15) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
- (19) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
- (19) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
- (21) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (21) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage- (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (3) Titanium Coating - Resistance
- (3) Reactive Armor - Resistance
Level 2: Temp Invulnerability- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance
- (15) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
- (17) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge
- (17) Titanium Coating - Endurance/Recharge
- (50) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (50) Titanium Coating - Endurance
Level 4: Shadow Maul- (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (5) Obliteration - Damage
- (5) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
- (7) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
- (7) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (9) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 6: Dull Pain- (A) Miracle - Heal
- (11) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (11) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
- (13) Recharge Reduction IO
- (13) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 8: Hasten- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (9) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 10: Swift- (A) Empty
Level 12: Boxing- (A) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
Level 14: Health- (A) Miracle - Heal
- (46) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
Level 16: Unyielding- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance
- (42) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge
- (45) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (50) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
Level 18: Dark Consumption- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
Level 20: Stamina- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
- (37) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
- (37) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
- (39) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (39) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
Level 22: Siphon Life- (A) Touch of the Nictus - Healing
- (23) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing
- (23) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge
- (25) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
- (25) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
- (27) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 24: Resist Energies- (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
- (37) Impervium Armor - Resistance
Level 26: Tough- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance
- (27) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (29) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (46) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
Level 28: Invincibility- (A) Red Fortune - Defense
- (29) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
- (31) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
- (31) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
- (31) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (34) Red Fortune - Endurance
Level 30: Weave- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (36) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +3% Res (All)
Level 32: Soul Drain- (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (33) Obliteration - Damage
- (33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
- (33) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
- (34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (34) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 35: Tough Hide- (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
- (42) Red Fortune - Defense
- (42) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
- (43) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
- (43) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (43) Red Fortune - Endurance
Level 38: Midnight Grasp- (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (39) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
- (40) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
- (40) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
- (40) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (45) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 41: Resist Elements- (A) Aegis - Resistance
- (45) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (46) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
Level 44: Electrifying Fences- (A) Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 47: Maneuvers- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 49: Tactics- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
------------Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Celerity - RunSpeed
Level 2: Rest- (A) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
Level 1: FuryLevel 6: Ninja Run