Earth/Thorns? Does the neg def stack?


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I was looking at Earth/Thorns and I normally hate lethal sets, but then I was seeing how basically everything in earth and thorns lowers defense? Does it all stack? If so then lethal would not be nearly as bad would it?


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You'll stack a lot of -def with earth/thorns.

An earth/thorns dom with plenty of -def AOE would help teams tear through most content.

If there's one criticism that I've heard from some about earth/thorns, its that there's more -def than necessary.


 

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Ah cool, tyvm. If that is the only criticism, I can live with that lol.


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yes earth/thorns does -defense



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Originally Posted by Jharber View Post
I was looking at Earth/Thorns and I normally hate lethal sets, but then I was seeing how basically everything in earth and thorns lowers defense? Does it all stack? If so then lethal would not be nearly as bad would it?
Just to clarify, -def doesn't help you at all with the fact you deal lethal damage. You want -res for that.

On the positive side, it does mean you can slot the achilles heel proc.


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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade View Post
Just to clarify, -def doesn't help you at all with the fact you deal lethal damage. You want -res for that.

On the positive side, it does mean you can slot the achilles heel proc.
Thorny Assault also deals toxic damage. I'm pretty sure Impale does pretty hefty amount too all by itself. Don't have access to numbers right now..but I wouldn't dismiss the effectiveness of the Additional Toxic DoT's.


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Toxic DoT is nice, but a lot of things that resist Lethal (anything robotic, etc.) will also resist Toxic.

In any case, yes, your -def all stacks. Once you start laying out Quicksand and Earthquake and start hitting them with a couple thorn bursts, your teammates should be able to hit them almost no matter what.


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