black hole on an STF


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Was reading Darky's guide for D3s and saw mentioned:

Using black hole on a pylon against recluse on an STF

Anyone do this? Does it work?


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Originally Posted by mintmiki View Post
Was reading Darky's guide for D3s and saw mentioned:

Using black hole on a pylon against recluse on an STF

Anyone do this? Does it work?
Yes it works, but...

You can't perma it, especially since it's impossible to recast it on a phased object.

It draws aggro. If you do it before the Tanker has established anchor lock, LR is coming after you and you will not survive. If you wait until the Tanker has aggro, then it's not like you're helping the Tanker survive the alpha strike.


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If you wait until the Tanker has aggro, then it's not like you're helping the Tanker survive the alpha strike.
If the tanker as aggro lock and your team starts on tower 1 (accuracy), wouldnt locking down tower 2 (damage) be a good idea?


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Yes, you can cage Standard AVs, STF Pylons, Patron AVs, and LR himself; in increasing order of difficulty, with varying levels of Hami-Os to enhance your cage. Many standard-type standard level (+0) AVs will be caged with no enhancement required, while a max difficulty patron may require 2-3 Hami-Os for a defender and 1-2 Hami-Os for a controller.

Yes, while squishing one tower, it can be helpful to cage another tower to remove that buff from LR.

Example cage the blue so defense works, vengeance and eat purples, then take out the yellow. Once the yellow is down, perma-cage LR himself and mop up. It's a bit harder to pull off than it sounds, but it does work, and it does allow a completely tank-less and healer-less team to complete the STF. Well, assuming people listen, understand, and stock up on the purples, greens, and vengeance accordingly.


 

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I assume that works with FF and Sonic as well. Which is good knowledge to have, given I have a Sonic corruptor who'll probably come blue side and a sonic Def and 2 FF characters (One Def, One Cont). It'll probably wig out some STFs once I do it.


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You also need to consider the problem that the towers reapply nonstacking buffs when active. They're not toggles that are instantly shut off when separated from him. They are power-granters. Caging/phasing a tower doesn't instantly turn the buff off, it will still run its duration, but won't be reapplied until the phase wears off.

Because of this, phasing LR himself might be a better idea in the long run, unless you figure out exactly when to cage the towers (just before they reapply) for maximum effectiveness.


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That depends on how long the duration of their buff is and how often they apply it.


 

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That depends on how long the duration of their buff is and how often they apply it.
Orange/Yellow tower: Buffs last for 15.5s and are reapplied every 10s.

Blue tower: Buffs last 15.25s and are reapplied every 10s.

Green tower: Regen buff lasts 20s and is reapplied every 10s. The Heal/+HP power reapplies every 5s, and the +HP buff lasts for 15.5s.

Red tower: Buffs last for 15.5s and are reapplied every 10s.


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