Single Target Damage


Elegost

 

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For lack of a proper vocabulary, i will use the work BEST.
Which scrapper set has the best ST damage?


 

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Though i'm no number cruncher, I'd say that the best ST dmg performer for minimal investment is Fire Melee.

A question: Are you planning to invest time/merits/inf in this scrapper? Fire Melee (i think) will still be at the top of ST dps, but other sets can close the gap and provide whatever perks they provide (dark melee/claws/DB/katana all come to mind)


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Grimmloch, Tactically Delicious, Ugly Frankie, Operative Tracker, CryoFurnace, Professional Help, Silver Sphinx, Aries Knight, Tachyon Aegis, Jade Sphinx
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I'm just starting a new char and every scrapper i've tried i've loved. Just want to know which one is statistically the best and of course id invest whatever into it. Also, what would be compliment it?


 

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This thread already has all the answers for you.

EDIT: This one too.


 

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Well, you could try fire/shield. Mine is one of my favorite toons, and was a fun trip all the way to 50 and beyond. AAO's +dmg makes fire melee hit very, very hard. Anything/shield will hit hard due to AAO. Fire/anything will hit hard due to Fire/.


50s:
Grimmloch, Tactically Delicious, Ugly Frankie, Operative Tracker, CryoFurnace, Professional Help, Silver Sphinx, Aries Knight, Tachyon Aegis, Jade Sphinx
Currently building:
Any one of half a dozen alts!

 

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Thank you everyone for your very incitful comments!


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Werner View Post
and under the right circumstances,
-with all the emphasis on this part.


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I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=260718
^Professional Katana/regen build thread

 

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I agree, but I'd argue that's true for pretty much any scrapper combo doing over 240 DPS. The ones that aren't Shield using AaO are typically extremely high recharge chains with a damage aura secondary, and will not have enough damage mitigation for most AVs without external help. It can be argued high damage sword primary + damage aura is the best choice if you use insps though, as mitigation is ridiculously easy to get through purple insps.

DM/SD with one target in range still does about 190-200 DPS, and largely negative damage at that, while also healing for the rough equivalent of 30hp/s and having softcapped defenses and DDR.

Admittedly, that could be me having a specific perspective, but I don't see the point of pure ST DPS outside of soloing AVs ; for minions/lieuts/bosses burst damage is better, elite bosses are rare, for AVs on teams you're better off going with "-res" primaries (through procs) to boost everyone's damage. So, I always consider damage mitigation at the same time.


 

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Originally Posted by Elegost View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Werner View Post
and under the right circumstances
-with all the emphasis on this part.
Eh, perhaps. But if we're going to emphasize "the right circumstances" then we have to start talking about what someone MEANS by "the best ST damage".

Pylons are a good testing point for DPS, but last too long for PRACTICAL DPS, which I'll agree with Nihilii basically means "for AV killing". Your Soul Drain and Against All Odds fuel will find it much easier to survive for the length of an AV fight, so you won't have to gather up a bunch of bosses to pull it off like you might (?) with a pylon run. So against AVs, I doubt it would be much more difficult to set up the right circumstances than Fire/SD. Might need to pull from a couple groups instead of just setting it to x8, but I don't know for sure, and many real missions are kill alls anyway. But I suppose if I introduce REAL missioning, then it's time to add some AoE, and Fire does AoE better than Dark, but that wasn't the question, so I have to draw a line somewhere before I slide down that slippery slope.

I'll also agree with Nihilii that cracking 240 DPS is pretty much going to be a situational event, something with a bunch of "yeah but"s, not a full time cranking through enemy after enemy event. But again, if we're talking about cranking through enemy after enemy, why aren't we talking about AoE and burst instead of DPS? So as I read "best ST damage", we were already talking about "under the right circumstances". I still thought it worth noting, just not worth emphasizing.

I could certainly be wrong, though. The OP is free to define it however he or she wants, and I may well give a different answer as a result.


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