RWZ Mothership Challenge


American_Valor

 

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RWZ Mothership Raid Challenge

Challenge:
The challenge is to bomb all 24 grates in the Rikti Warzone Mothership. Someone I came across in another server mentioned this and told me this has never been done before. When RWZ was first introduced, some friends and I were able to bomb 11-12 grates in one Raid sitting. Using a strategy I devised, I hope to make this happen with your help.

Participants:
I hope to get level 50 characters from you and not have level 14s running around expecting an indirect PL (power level). Vanguard Merits will not be as bountiful with the current strategy until you start attacking the GM (giant monster). If your team is not done setting off bombs, do not prioritize attacking the GM until that’s done.

Main Strategy
We only need 24 characters to make this happen and I’m sure we’ll have well over that amount. I will be splitting all the raiders into 4 teams, each taking a side of the ship (North, South, East, and West). As you know there are 6 grates at each side. On a standard MSRaid, raiders normally attack the Southern side of the ship right after Pylon 1 is destroyed. From there, the each team will be handling all 6 bombs by themselves.

Team Strategy
The team will consist of 1-2 “grate killers” and 6-7 “sneakers”. Once the last pylon is destroyed, each team goes to their designated ship location – North, South, East, or West. The leader of the team will ideally be a grate killer. The team starts off at the center edge of the ship. The grate killer(s) start attacking the grates in a zigzag pattern moving side to side along their side of the ship. As each grate goes down, Riktis will start piling up on the grate killer(s). As the Riktis follow the grate killer(s), a sneaker could sneak in the grate. The sneaker QUITs team, THEN set off bomb. As the sneakers move inside all 6 grates and bomb, the grate killer/leader re-invites everyone after the last bomb is set. If the grate killer invites too early, the rest of the sneakers who have not set off a bomb, may not be able to set it off. Your role is further explained at the bottom.

Grate Killer
I will assign 3 other sub-leaders. Ideally, I would want a player who knows how to be firm with commands. The grate killer starts off killing Grate 1 to Grate 6 in a zigzag pattern as shown in the image. If there happens to be more than 1 grate killer, please attack as one – attack the same grate. Reason for this, I want the Riktis to latch onto you that way a sneaker can safely sneak inside the grate without being disturbed. As members of your team start quitting, make sure all 6 grates are being bombed and your teammates are undisturbed as they set off their bomb. When all 6 grates have smoke coming out, you will receive a tell from your allies for re-invite. Only AFTER all 6 bombs are set off, you will re-invite. It is up to you afterwards whether or not your team wants to jump the GM (giant monster) at the center or wait for another team to finish their bombing to join you. During the whole bomb process, grate killer(s) should not be attacking Riktis and just concentrate on killing the grates. As grate killer, I expect you to use [demonic aura], [eye of the magus], [elusive mind], or pop as many purples as u need to execute this. When I solo’d all 6 grates, it only took me 1 min and 30 sec to do so.

Sneaker
After the last pylon is destroyed, go to your designated side and wait at the Starting Point. As the grate killer(s) destroys Grate 1, ONE of you sneaks inside. The Riktis should not be able to bother you since they would be latched onto the grate killer(s). As you are safely inside, QUIT the team, set off bomb, and return to the Starting Point. Only one person per grate should be doing this to avoid multiple agro. As each grate is destroyed, one sneaker goes in to the grate and repeat this process. If you happen to be more than able-bodied to help the grate killer, do NOT help the grate killer because you don’t want enemies latched onto you. After you set off the bomb, send a tell to your leader for a re-invite. He/she will re-invite you only after all 6 grates are bombed. *If one of you happen to have stealth and teleport and would want to sneak in and TP members inside the grate, you can use that strategy for those “afraid” to sneak in. Just make sure that the person who is being teleported QUITs before setting off bomb. If they expect a TP back to the Starting Point, don’t TP; they have to be gutsy and go back there. During this whole process, no one should be attacking Riktis.

The Rest of the Raid
The Pylon destruction would be executed the same way as previous raids. Everyone meets up at Point du Hoc and leader will call out Pylon numbers for destruction. When each team is done bombing their side of the ship, everyone meets up at the center to kill the GM and earn Vanguard Merits. If you were not able to earn a bomb credit for the badge nor was on the team who was not able to catch up and kill the GM, do not worry about it because the whole point of this raid is to see how well division of labor would work when one main objective is at hand – setting off all 24 bombs on the mothership. If there happens to be more players who would want to join and there’s no more room on the main teams, please attack from the Southern side of the ship. I will handle that side and modify whatever needs to be adjusted in my strategy.

The Date and Time
I have changed the original date of this challenge from May 14th to a date when there's actually people replying to this thread. As of this message, a few of you have looked at this thread, but hav enot bothered to reply. When there's at least 3 leaders wanting to help me out, we'll discuss on the date to do this. If you think you can handle the responsibility of being firm and be the main grate killer, please post your global name on the next thread… I will contact you in-game. Steele Magnolia and American Valor, if you two happen to be there, I would like you to spam what you naturally spam on request: “Plz spam CM, ID,…” etc.


 

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I think that this would be a good warm up to the organization needed for Hami Raid


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Steele is currently out of game effectively for the month of May, I may or maynot be available as 'Peter Pan' has a princess who is graduating. Thus making May a hit and miss month for me why I bowed out of forming up the Liberty Hami Raid that is in the works.

Sounds interesting enough.

Valor


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This is nice. People want to amass enough players to "work together" to destroy a Hami Raid, but they can't come together for something as simple as this. Is it because you guys would prefer Matt, Valor, Steele, or someone who you people are more familiar with? After all, who am I? I am that tick in your mind slowly sipping out brain fluid but at the same time leaving my mark - an idea that this may actually be fun. When this event goes off eventually, I won't be there to lead it because "hey, who is Desum? She's probably like Cold Eng or Dragynmaster who has never lead anything successfully." I am a 3 month noob who doesn't know the goings of this game and will assume the position to the veterans of this game because they are sooooo good.


 

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I was all for this idea myself... That was until you presented yourself the way you have in the past few posts. I prefer a more mature game experience.


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I lawld


 

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If you want this to happen, I would suggest you msg Cappy or PW, or one of the other LB moderators to place it in the Message of the Day for the LB channel. This will allow for others to see what it is that you are wanting to do. Set aside a bit of time before hand to explain to everyone on what is going to happen, then do the challenge. Not everyone from the game reads the forums.

Also, seeing as very few people have responded to you, regardless of you liking the responses, does not adequately reflect the entire server. You might want to ease up a bit. Either way... good luck.



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Originally Posted by Desum View Post
This is nice. People want to amass enough players to "work together" to destroy a Hami Raid, but they can't come together for something as simple as this. Is it because you guys would prefer Matt, Valor, Steele, or someone who you people are more familiar with? After all, who am I? I am that tick in your mind slowly sipping out brain fluid but at the same time leaving my mark - an idea that this may actually be fun. When this event goes off eventually, I won't be there to lead it because "hey, who is Desum? She's probably like Cold Eng or Dragynmaster who has never lead anything successfully." I am a 3 month noob who doesn't know the goings of this game and will assume the position to the veterans of this game because they are sooooo good.
Did you bother to read my post before you posted. You assume I would be willing to join in your raid with No pm, or tells and then you act the jerk in this post and expect me and my sg mate to consider helping you.

Bad form. I have a life, a RL, so does Steele. Heaven forbid we don't drop everything to pimp your idea. I don't care if you're the leader of the number one sg on the server which you're not. You should learn basic manners imo if you expect my help. Yea like my message to you, bad form. Maybe at some future date you might present this idea again and if people are interested and your mature enough people will help. There are plenty of helpful people on this server and I am at the bottom of that list, the very bottom.

Either way good luck.

AV


Quote:
by Star Ranger 4
WIN LOSE OR DRAW, WE WILL FIGHT.
WE ARE HEROES This is what we DO!
When you wake up seek the courage and strength to do the right thing.
Decide that this will be another day in which you Walk The Talk.

MA #14724 Operation: Discredit @American Valor
Sentinel Of Liberty SG

 

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I was all for this idea myself... That was until you presented yourself the way you have in the past few posts. I prefer a more mature game experience.
I completely agree with you, Dead West!


 

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oooo someone mentioned me in there post me happy now!!!


But i know what you are saying.


 

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Wow.... is this the making of a power strugle?...

It's amazing how people get so offended in the simple form of text?


Hiyas ENG... long time, no chat... but sure we have plenty we can catch up on....

We lost our globals when I changed (global)... but you're always welcome to invite again....


 

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Originally Posted by Desum View Post
Someone I came across in another server mentioned this and told me this has never been done before. When RWZ was first introduced, some friends and I were able to bomb 11-12 grates in one Raid sitting. Using a strategy I devised, I hope to make this happen with your help.
It always amuses me it how it was "mentioned" on another server yet you devised the strategy...

anyways, here are my notes on Union's attempt at this, we wish you good luck in achieving this, although time becomes the deciding factor in the attempt as we discovered.



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Originally Posted by TsumijuZero View Post
It always amuses me it how it was "mentioned" on another server yet you devised the strategy...

anyways, here are my notes on Union's attempt at this, we wish you good luck in achieving this, although time becomes the deciding factor in the attempt as we discovered.
Cool and Thank you TsumijuZero for sharing the link. I think the idea holds lots of merit and I would be very interested in seeing how this could be done. As I mentioned prieviously Both me and my SG mate who regulary run standard MSR are currently on hiatuis due to RL commitments. I would hopefully like to see something like this attempted just for the sheer novelity of the idea, and I can see where time would be the factor. Thank you again for the link.

On a different note:
I can understand the fustration that the server hasn't gotten behind the idea, personally I don't believe it had anything to do with the status of being a Vet or Not, but more the fact that this month has been the 6th annv release of the game and others are doing things to celebrate the game here on Liberty or elsewhere. Then it is also the end of the school year and plenty of our forumites are dealing with that from both sides. I would recommend take a step back, lighten up, relax and lets see how things turn out. I would like to see this attempted as I stated above.

Valor


Quote:
by Star Ranger 4
WIN LOSE OR DRAW, WE WILL FIGHT.
WE ARE HEROES This is what we DO!
When you wake up seek the courage and strength to do the right thing.
Decide that this will be another day in which you Walk The Talk.

MA #14724 Operation: Discredit @American Valor
Sentinel Of Liberty SG

 

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No problem, I'm always up for seeing the Rikti getting a bit of a kicking.

We did some number crunching and we think (but sadly can't prove) that bombs suffer from diminishing returns in terms of time added, which is what cut off our attempt just over 2/3's of the way round.

I'd also suggest a slightly different grate route than the one presented here (crossing the main decks from left to right takes you through heavier respawns which will slow you guys down)

Good Hunting



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I look forward to the end of May.

I think AV is right about the distractions from this distraction, CoX.

Once everyone is back from Vacation, graduation and out of jail or whatever, then this will likely be attempted and be successful.

Anytime between 1030 PM -1:30 AM Central is good with me.


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I would be willing to give it a try Desum. Although I do think the criss cross pattern may confuse some of the more straighforward thinkers of the attack.


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Originally Posted by Desum View Post
the same time leaving my mark - an idea that this may actually be fun. When this event goes off eventually, I won't be there to lead it because "hey, who is Desum? She's probably like Cold Eng or Dragynmaster who has never lead anything successfully." I am a 3 month noob who doesn't know the goings of this game and will assume the position to the veterans of this game because they are sooooo good.

Jom is a girl? and a 3 month noob?


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Desum is Jom!?!?!? Oh my goodness!


 

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Desum is Jom!?!?!? Oh my goodness!
What is going on?!