Illusion for dominators


Ash_Trey

 

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I've thought a lot about illusion on doms and trollers.

Trollers: like you say it has no readily available aoe containment. In a troller world dominated by contained damage this is a pretty major drawback. And yet Ill controllers get by just fine.

PA under high recharge is pretty amazing and is a large part of the draw to such combos as ill/rad and ill/kin. However, PA does not benefit from external buffing so the only way to improve them is via enemy debuffing. Controllers with res debuffing make PA very impressive because of the heal back mechanic of their attacks. Basically once you fully damage slot PA it has a 35% heal back ratio that you can only improve through resistance debuffing. Something like an ill/cold can make the heal back as small as 17% of the damage they put out. Amazing stuff really.

Dominators: won't have many powers that are boosted by the +mag+duration of domination. In fact they'll have 1 less than sets like earth and fire. This could be seen as a setback, but we know Castle reworked doms specifically to rely less on domination than before. I'm of the mind set that illusion is not a weak control set, but rather a weak "lock down" set. Complete lockdown is irrelevant to doms.

Regarding PA and dominators: it is of little doubt that it would be a very strong combo. While active it would allow a dominator to focus almost entirely on damage output. Pretty big advantage. That said, it is significantly more difficult for a dom to reach perma PA than it is for a troller. Not impossible, but much more difficult. Additionally doms have no way of making PA more effective while they are out like trollers do, with the exception of a single target debuff in one patron choice.

I think it goes without saying that anyone who truly believes illusion would be overpowered on a dominator is by default saying it is even moreso on a controller as they can leverage the strengths of the set better than doms.

Conversely, people with concerns that it would be too weak due to little benefit gained through domination need to look up the status on spec terror.
Wow...duuuudeee get out of my head! I agree 1000% percent



 

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Wow...duuuudeee get out of my head! I agree 1000% percent
Your thoughts on Illusion wasn't all I saw while I was in there. Get some help, your obsession with Salma Hayek is bordering on disturbing...or was that while I was in my head?


 

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Your thoughts on Illusion wasn't all I saw while I was in there. Get some help, your obsession with Salma Hayek is bordering on disturbing...or was that while I was in my head?
I'm pretty sure it was both of us. She's a very pretty lady...pretty as in drop dead sexy.

Hrmm, I think I would roll a Ill/fire, Ill/NRG, Ill/Thorn I...wow it actually meshes well with almost everything.



 

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. Additionally doms have no way of making PA more effective while they are out like trollers do, with the exception of a single target debuff in one patron choice.
/Thorns with an Achilles -res proc? That'll lower both the defense and resistance of the target. Ill/Thorns might be a popular combo.


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