Graphics Card question, and question in general
By
all_hell,
Posted on: 2010-05-03 15:35 in Player Questions
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Hmm. Locking up and having to force a restart is never a good thing. |
Originally Posted by thgebull0425
On Saturday, I ran Norton, left for a couple of hours, and my PC was locked. I had to power down and restart. I then tried to enter COH, and my mouse cursor was floating and moving kind of all over the place. Once in game, my Keyboard controls were all funky, not being able to move, moving me in directions I didn't want to go.
Earlier in the day, I logged in, and had no problems, so I am thinking something happened. Attached below is my video card. Could this be the problem? ATI Catalyst Radeon Graphics x1600/x1650 Series. Could it be possible that when my PC froze it caused the problem, and if so, how do I troubleshoot. My mouse and keyboard work fine outside the game. Help!!!!!!! |
Now, I'm not inclined to blame your graphics card to start with. Yes, the x1000 series is sort of old by now, but I'd rather you run some other tests first.
First, I'd like to run a Memtest. You can get Memtest either on it's on ISO: http://www.memtest.org/#downiso :: or from popular LiveCD Linux Distributions like Mepis: http://www.mepis.org/mirrors
If there's a memory failover point, Memtest will find it. What you want to do is run Memtest for a few hours. If you get any RED ERROR MESSAGES, it's time to buy new ram.
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If Memtest doesn't turn anything up, run GPUZ: http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
GPUZ should allow you to monitor your graphics cards essential attributes:
Simply run CoH in windowed mode and force GPUZ to always be on top. If you get spiking temperatures while running the game, that could be the problem.
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The next step, or first step if I was at the computer, would be to drop Norton like a red hot horseshoe. In my own tests, Norton's Antivirus is one of the worst in the industry, with a hit-rate for virus's best described as Star-Wars Stormtrooper circa A New Hope.
Free Antivirus's like Avast and AVG have way better detection rates, and chew up far less processing power.
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The last step I would take at this point would also be to clear out the drivers. You are a bit out-of-luck in that the x1000 series was retired back in 2009. The last driver update was 9-3. Since then AMD publishes a quarterly update rolling the 9-3 driver into new packages. I think the last quarterly update was 10-2 Catalyst package. I'd run Memtest and check the temperatures of the x1600 you have on hand first though.
Je saist, even if I can play other games without any issues? I play Rome Total War and I don't have problems. Now admittedly, my graphics card could work on that since it is older. And why don't i have keyboard and mouse issues normally, and only when I log into COH.
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Most games released in a Windows client format in the past few years haven't leveraged OpenGL. City of Heroes is the first commercially released game (that I am aware of) that leverages OpenGL 3.0 API calls.|
Originally Posted by thgebull0425
Je saist, even if I can play other games without any issues? I play Rome Total War and I don't have problems. Now admittedly, my graphics card could work on that since it is older. And why don't i have keyboard and mouse issues normally, and only when I log into COH.
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So yes, even if other games work perfectly, there could still be an issue with the drivers themselves.
Now, the x1600 series isn't going to have an OpenGL 3.0 driver, as the card is only capable of OpenGL 2.0 support, which is one of the potential complications with this issue.
Ok, I will go through what you posted earlier. It just perplexes me since I logged in earlier on Saturday with no issues, then frozen screen, power off, power up again, and lo and behold problems.
I have the same video card on an XP machine w/ up to date drivers. I was not having any problems.
But running GPUZ caused my video card to get really, really hot very quickly. So hot that it shuts off at the CoV log on screen.
So, it may or may not be of diagnostic help to you thgebull0425
But if you run it and your card seems to be running really hot, it may just be the GPUZ
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GPUZ shouldn't be making any calls to the graphics engine, so it shouldn't be causing the graphics card to get hot. All GPUZ should be doing is monitoring the information given from the driver. |
Originally Posted by all_hell
I have the same video card on an XP machine w/ up to date drivers. I was not having any problems.
But running GPUZ caused my video card to get really, really hot very quickly. So hot that it shuts off at the CoV log on screen. So, it may or may not be of diagnostic help to you thgebull0425 But if you run it and your card seems to be running really hot, it may just be the GPUZ |
If you believe you have discovered a bug in GPUZ were it is actually making 3D API calls and is causing temperatures to increase, please file a bug report over on TechPowerUp's Forums: http://forums.techpowerup.com/forumdisplay.php?f=53
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Originally Posted by je_saist
GPUZ shouldn't be making any calls to the graphics engine, so it shouldn't be causing the graphics card to get hot. All GPUZ should be doing is monitoring the information given from the driver.
If you believe you have discovered a bug in GPUZ were it is actually making 3D API calls and is causing temperatures to increase, please file a bug report over on TechPowerUp's Forums: http://forums.techpowerup.com/forumdisplay.php?f=53 |
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showth...57#post1880057
Idk about whether its makings calls or w/e, but everything is dandy except when I run GPUZ. I was not having any problems w/ CoV and do not have any problems w/ it now.
On Saturday, I ran Norton, left for a couple of hours, and my PC was locked. I had to power down and restart. I then tried to enter COH, and my mouse cursor was floating and moving kind of all over the place. Once in game, my Keyboard controls were all funky, not being able to move, moving me in directions I didn't want to go.
Earlier in the day, I logged in, and had no problems, so I am thinking something happened. Attached below is my video card. Could this be the problem?
ATI Catalyst Radeon Graphics
x1600/x1650 Series.
Could it be possible that when my PC froze it caused the problem, and if so, how do I troubleshoot.
My mouse and keyboard work fine outside the game.
Help!!!!!!!