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Without even looking at the builds I'd say pick whichever you like more. The Kat/Invuln is probably the stronger character, thanks to Divine Avalanche. But in the end strength doesn't matter much when you're badge-hunting (my badge-hunter is a storm/energy defender simply because she was the first character I ever rolled).
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Originally Posted by GangstaBlade
Hello, my idea is to make a badger with either a DB/Invuln or a Katana/Invuln. I am really not sure which one to do, they're both awesome and fun, but not sure which to chose.
ill show you my build, but please don't just comment that the build sucks, ill fix it later. *hopes someone replies* please tell me which one you think is better and why. |
What she said. I did the exact same thing, it just happened to be a katana/regen.
This goes with the belief that, to get as many badges as possible, you need to also have all the anniversary/event badges - those that you can only get once.
If you're fine without getting those limited ones, then that's cool, too. I'd go with katana/inv, but I've always liked both dm and katana with inv. For things like the Ozone badges, I think katana would hold up much better than dm when using some of the limits you'd have to set (like no enhancements).
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I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
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^Professional Katana/regen build thread
Hmmm interesting, I would like to hear the side of dual blades aswell. I agree that a badger doesn't need to be about damage but i would to be able to kill a group of enemies quickly but not the speed of light like EL/SD, i want a weapon like dual blades or katana just not sure and need more persuasion to a side. I want to be able to feel like I know i will be on this character and I bet I won't regret making this character because they are too weak or destroyable. I want to be able to stay only on that character because they are so interesting and the persusasion was really reaching as if.
Edited to say: And the animations and the weapon looks mad
Personally im leaning towards Dual Blades because I found a song that would sound better playing Dual Blades.
Im thinking of the song
Help-by the beetles
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Originally Posted by GangstaBlade
..., i want a weapon like dual blades or katana just not sure and need more persuasion to a side.
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I want to be able to feel like I know i will be on this character and I bet I won't regret making this character because they are too weak or destroyable. I want to be able to stay only on that character because they are so interesting and the persusasion was really reaching as if. Edited to say: And the animations and the weapon looks mad |
I'm not ie most people though, im not very tenacious on one character, i have problems paying enough attension to get me to lvl 40 let alone 50, that is why I only have like 3 lvl 50s only. But you're way of finding out these things were very interesting, i will attempt to make both of them using the same costume because i want to use the same costume either weapon I use.
I am currently at my dad's super super super slow internet house, so overnight ill have the issue 17 done then ill be ready to attempt to make two charatcers, but I realise now that in the end i have two characters that I really enjoy. then by the time that happens ill have to come back to this thread to just say
"ok I made my lvl 50s but i am still not sure! I love them both, they are both just too awesome to choose from and a i cannot afford to pay for both of them, can you give me more ideas?"
But bythen I bet someone will probably say, well just play them to try get badges and see which one you seem to spend more hours on. maybe some times you will like to be able to knock everone around over to stop them attacking with dual blades witht he sweep combo. or maybe you want to own someone with whatever the 9th tier katana attack is.
Oh no! now i just thought about PVP badges! and katana would be so much better for that!
Darn! Katana is damage awesome and dual blades is awesome looking!
Im sadder now!
if the point is going for badges then you'll want it to be Katana, it's stronger out of the box and comes with DA.
If you're going to spend time on the Oro badges or on lower TFs and mishes that will be important.
Though for the same Oro related reason its also worth going to 50, slotting in purples and then going back, even then though Katana will have an advantage at lower levels.
This is however speaking as someone who has gone back and soloed many of those Oro badges, it was an exercise in torture, and my single bigest peice of advice would be DON'T. (unless you like poking yourself in the eye with the rusty end of a decapitated unicorn's horn)
I'm starting to sway towards katana now, Anyone want to change my mind?
katana regen pwns. that is all.
<--- You get to look that awesome
and that awesome
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Despite loving Dual Blades, I have to agree with Reyne.
Dual Blades really takes off at level 26 with Sweeping Strike (and the Attack Vitals chain) in my opinion, whereas Katana is a solid performer as soon as level 1, thanks to Gambler's Cut.
I've done my fair share of exemplaring below 26 on DB characters and it is just painful. Nimble Slash doesn't look good, and even if you want to use it for the Empower chain, that chain doesn't stack with itself unless you have a gap. Power Slice is alright but nothing to write home about, Vengeful Slice looks good but is slow and because of that, inefficient outside of the Attack Vitals chain, Typhoon's Edge is just your standard 8 feet PBAoE (that is to say, not so hot). The two really good pre-26 powers in my opinion are Blinding Feint and Ablating Strike ; that's it.
Now with Katana, you've got GC, you've got Flashing Steel, you've got Divine Avalanche, with these three great powers alone you can make a fast and smooth chain as soon as level 8 (and if you don't have enough recharge, adding Sting of the Wasp in will make it work).
When it comes to exemplaring, Katana is a clear winner over DB. At level 50, the damage gap isn't so big ; the main difference is Katana can choose to go for maximum survivability thanks to DA, whereas DB doesn't have that option. However, DB will do more AoE damage with its maximum ST damage chain.
well i got my info from this thread, i'm going to make a katana for my main. Now i need to fix up my build, feel free to help out with the build i have but ill be working on it, no comments that it is crap please, i'm not 'good' like some people.
Ok, i tried to make this the best i could, i tried to get more lethal/smashing defense but i got stuck on 33% on both of them without DA on, anyone spare to help?
If anyone knows virtue prices, could anyone tell me if this is worth under 850m max money?
Or possibly supply a better yet still under price range build?
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That's not a nice build.
Sorry, that's as delicate as I can put it.
4 slotted Kinetic Combats may give you the Smash/lethal bonus, but it also leaves you with only + 85% dmg and +41% Rech, which is Far from enough.
And you've gimped too many of your attacks that way.
also, if cash is an issue, why are you using the LotG uniques? at the very least you can take the slots back to help strengthen your attacks.
So, I had a 'puter crash not so long ago, that swallowed many of my mids builds, however, when the servers are back up, I'll paste my Kat/Inv build for you here. It has Def/Res numbers comparable to an SO only Granite, and a respectable DPS, so hopefully you'll be able to pick it apart for ideas.
As promised here is a copy of my current in game build, (though it doesnt reflect the power pick order)
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And no travel power means I rely on Ninja Run and jetpacks.
Oh, and for the record, I don't believe in Muleing powers, so that means yes, I do use "Calling of the Wolf" it has a beautiful; animation, and with 44% smash/lethal def and 67% smash/lethal Res, I'm not kidding when I say I've used it to save Granite Tanks.
It's also worth mentioning that because it is a direct copy of my ingame build (one that was meant to be cheap) it also leaves plenty of room for improvement if you want to spend more inf on it.
Anyway, hope it helps.
Dude that is awesome! Once i get my starting IOs like from that build ill start trying to make money(ingame) anyways thankyou so much for the build.
But i have a question, why is there an achilies heal debuff there?
Also can i replace scirroco's dervice with obblitteration?
How expensive is your exact ingame build?
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Originally Posted by GangstaBlade
Dude that is awesome! Once i get my starting IOs like from that build ill start trying to make money(ingame) anyways thankyou so much for the build.
But i have a question, why is there an achilies heal debuff there? Also can i replace scirroco's dervice with obblitteration? How expensive is your exact ingame build? |
The Obliterations are mainly there for the recharge but the def bonus helps too, remember its not Typed def that helps /Inv, its the Smash/Lethal def, and he softcaps with only a few foes in range thanks to Invincibility. (great on ITF or with any smash/lethal mobs and +4/x8 is my usual diff setting)
As for cost, most of it was done a while ago (except the recent purples) and at the time it came in under a billion, I had honestly tried to keep it cheap (may say something about my bankroll) not sure what its worth at todays prices.
Anywho, good luck
Do you think the build you gave me is viable for av soloing?
okay, you may think this is stupid but i am getting rid of one power to grab super jump because im gonna be annoyed always being the slowest one to the mission in a TF or in a regular team.
Hmmm ill post new build after i figure ouyt whoich power is skipworthy
Im sad at which power I had to get rid of, it wasn't an easy decision I did in 20 seconds. I had to get rid of meneuvers that only gave 2.88 defense to all. I need a travel power, I want to get to the next enemy in 3 secs not 8, plus in hard to travel maps like faultine, you want to be able to jump over all the falling points instead of falling and running to what you think is an exit and find out bam you have to just out from the other side. I also wanted haste but I thought that I had no more skippable powers.
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I first saw this and thought "A Badger would clearly be claws/regen" before I realized the OP didn't mean the stripey sort.
Clearly I am not playing this game properly. >.>;;
Ice/Ice Blaster. Dedication to concept is an ugly thing.
Claws/WP Brute. Sex without the angst.
Every CoX character lies somewhere on this spectrum.
Hello, my idea is to make a badger with either a DB/Invuln or a Katana/Invuln. I am really not sure which one to do, they're both awesome and fun, but not sure which to chose.
ill show you my build, but please don't just comment that the build sucks, ill fix it later.
Katana:
please tell me which one you think is better and why.