I'd say we start with one of two things.
A) Download Mid's and make a build that you'd like to start from, then post it here, and ask for tweaks for the sake of farming etc.
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B) Share more about what you have in mind for farming. What you plan to farm, if you plan to do it alone, what the difficulty settings will look like.
For a Crab, on something like -1 x 7, just getting your pets at or near perma is enough to walk through some farms. As you get towards +4 x anything, personal survivability I think becomes more the issue.
I have a build I use to farm occasionally (though I much prefer Ouroboros to farms) that consists of all the ranged Assault Rifle attacks, the pets, the Scorpion AoE immobilize, and capped ranged defense. I hold down the nemesis and then we just go to town on them. It's not terribly fast, but it's pretty safe.
If you have something else in mind, like more melee, or permanent pets then some attacks could be left out in exchange for recharge.
I don't know anything about PvP, but I imagine similiar questions arise in regards to what you want to do. I think the standards on travel powers and DPA on attacks are a little more defined for people who PvP a lot though...
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Originally Posted by Pedro Schwartz
Hey guys, rookie on Build issues looking for help.
I've recently got my Crab to 50,and i have a respec left,and want to respec into a good Farm build and an alt build for PVP. But for RP issues, i wanted to stay with the Mu Patron Powers,and the three Pet powers. |
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How's this build for farming?
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1,621
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Level 50 Natural Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Crab Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Crab Spider Training
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery
Villain Profile:
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Level 1: Channelgun Empty(A), Empty(3), Empty(3), Empty(43)
Level 1: Wolf Spider Armor Empty(A), Empty(5), Empty(5), Empty(34)
Level 2: Combat Training: Defensive Empty(A), Empty(7), Empty(7)
Level 4: Longfang Empty(A), Empty(9), Empty(9), Empty(46)
Level 6: Combat Training: Offensive Empty(A), Empty(11), Empty(11)
Level 8: Crab Spider Armor Upgrade Empty(A), Empty(13), Empty(13)
Level 10: Wide Area Web Grenade Empty(A), Empty(15), Empty(15), Empty(43)
Level 12: Tactical Training: Maneuvers Empty(A), Empty(17), Empty(17), Empty(36)
Level 14: Suppression Empty(A), Empty(19), Empty(19), Empty(23)
Level 16: Tactical Training: Assault Empty(A), Empty(25), Empty(25), Empty(34)
Level 18: Venom Grenade Empty(A), Empty(27), Empty(27), Empty(43)
Level 20: Frag Grenade Empty(A), Empty(21), Empty(21), Empty(23)
Level 22: Tactical Training: Leadership Empty(A), Empty(29), Empty(29), Empty(36)
Level 24: Mental Training Empty(A)
Level 26: Fortification Empty(A), Empty(31), Empty(31)
Level 28: Hasten Empty(A), Empty(31), Empty(33), Empty(33), Empty(33), Empty(34)
Level 30: Serum Empty(A)
Level 32: Frenzy Empty(A), Empty(36), Empty(45)
Level 35: Summon Spiderlings Empty(A), Empty(37), Empty(37), Empty(37), Empty(40), Empty(42)
Level 38: Call Reinforcements Empty(A), Empty(39), Empty(39), Empty(39), Empty(40), Empty(40)
Level 41: Electrifying Fences Empty(A), Empty(42), Empty(42), Empty(46)
Level 44: Ball Lightning Empty(A), Empty(45), Empty(45), Empty(46)
Level 47: Summon Striker Empty(A), Empty(48), Empty(48), Empty(48), Empty(50), Empty(50)
Level 49: Arm Lash Empty(A), Empty(50)
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Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Conditioning
Level 4: Ninja Run
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No Fitness? I'd think if you plan to farm, you'd need to make sure you are endurance sustainable. I guess you could build for end redux, but I'm sure that there's some powers you could drop to get Stamina. I think Serum and some of the melee attacks could be dropped, most are underslotted as is and won't give a huge benefit.
Just quickly looking over what you've got, I'd drop Wolf Spider Armor. Crab Spider Armor should be enough to cover most PvE content. TT:A and CT:O are overslotted, I think that the base slot would probably be more than enough. Hasten is overslotted, three slots should be enough. Same goes for Crab Spider Armor, I would stick a KB Protect in the base slot and call it good.
Your attacks seem a little underslotted as well. You have quite a few of them, and most only have around 4 slots. Unless you just want to frankeslot, 4 slots probably won't cut it especially if you want the bonuses that come with most IO Sets.
So what would the right slotting be?
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This is what I use.
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As an alternate opinion, I triple slotted Training: Offensive for acc, and that servers me well. Doing that gives me the equivilant of an SO in every power, at the cost of 2 slots. This lets me focus on other things for slotting. Handy since crab with pets is very slot hungry. I agree with taking fitness. It's very good to have as a crab.
You don't really need a travel power. I slot 3 run speed in Mental Training, Swift, and Sprint and that's good. I then use my jump jet for vert mobility as needed. Sure it takes 6 slots, but I saved a bunch of slots by not having to slot acc in every attack. Even vs +3 mobs I still hit 85% of the time. But then I also slotted TT: Tactics for to-hit. That and Training: Offensive means I hit most every time I attack.
I would take serum myself. Having it is nice since it's a self heal. Actually, I believe it's a dull pain clone.
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Well, I finally took a moment to sit down and try to come up with an IO build with some of the requirements the OP had. Here we go:
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Crab Spider No Travel Power: Level 50 Natural Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Crab Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Crab Spider Training
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Channelgun -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Crab Spider Armor Upgrade -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(36)
Level 2: Longfang -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 4: Combat Training: Defensive -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(13), GftotA-Def(13), GftotA-Def/Rchg(15)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 8: Suppression -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(17), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Posi-Dam%(19), RechRdx-I(19)
Level 10: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21), GftotA-Def(21), GftotA-Def/Rchg(23)
Level 12: Venom Grenade -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(25), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), Posi-Dam%(27), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 14: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 16: Aim -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 18: Frag Grenade -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(31), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), Posi-Dam%(31), RechRdx-I(33)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(33), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(33), P'Shift-End%(34)
Level 22: Mental Training -- Run-I(A)
Level 24: Fortification -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), TtmC'tng-ResDam(34)
Level 26: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 28: Serum -- Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(37), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Dct'dW-Heal(37), Dct'dW-Rchg(39)
Level 30: Tactical Training: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Tactical Training: Leadership -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Summon Spiderlings -- BriL'shp-Acc/Dmg(A), BriL'shp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), BriL'shp-Dmg(39), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(40), RechRdx-I(40), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 38: Call Reinforcements -- BriL'shp-Acc/Dmg(A), BriL'shp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), BriL'shp-Dmg(42), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(42), RechRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 41: Mu Lightning -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(46), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 44: Ball Lightning -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(45), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Summon Striker -- BriL'shp-Acc/Dmg(A), BriL'shp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), BriL'shp-Dmg(48), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(48), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 49: Combat Training: Offensive -- Acc-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Conditioning
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Goshnova I can't tell what you trying to accomplish with that build, save Inf maybe?
Thanks for the replies, I might try Goshnova's build, but why not take Web Grenade?
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Oh darn, I forgot all about Web Grenade. I keep thinking that it causes redraw, but looking at the recent post on here, it's less of an issue taking the gun out for a Crab. Hmm, knowing that now I'd try to fit it in on my build. It's pretty useful, and negates the KB that might be caused by Frag Grenade.|
Originally Posted by Pedro Schwartz
Thanks for the replies, I might try Goshnova's build, but why not take Web Grenade?
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And Zmoosh, I made the build in mind assuming that the OP didn't have a large pile of inf and mostly as a general PvE build. I've never farmed on a Crab Spider before, but I imagine that you would need some good +recharge and defense.
On the defense note, I think that on the build I posted maybe reslotting one of the pets with a full set of Expedient Reinforcement, dropping a slot with the Common IO from Suppression or Frag Grenade and putting that slot in Mu Lightning would be good. Replace the set of Decimation with a full set of Thunderstrike would cap ranged defense.
Check this build baby...i run Tv Nemesis farm map on +1/8 with no prob.
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C R Y S I S : Level 50 Natural Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Crab Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Crab Spider Training
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
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Level 1: Channelgun
(A) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff: Level 30
(5) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Defense Debuff: Level 30
(17) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage: Level 30
(27) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
(31) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
(34) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
Level 1: Wolf Spider Armor
(A) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
(7) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
(29) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 2: Longfang
(A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
(3) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 40
(3) Decimation - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
(5) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(7) Decimation - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
Level 4: Combat Training: Defensive
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
Level 6: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(17) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 8: Suppression
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(9) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(9) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(15) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(40) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 50
Level 10: Aim
(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff: Level 50
(11) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 50
(11) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
(13) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
(13) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 50
(23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up: Level 50
Level 12: Super Speed
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50
Level 14: Arm Lash
(A) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff: Level 30
(15) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Defense Debuff: Level 30
(33) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
(33) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
(33) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
(34) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage: Level 30
Level 16: Swift
(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 18: Venom Grenade
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(19) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(19) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(21) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(27) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 50
Level 20: Health
(A) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
(21) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50
Level 22: Stamina
(A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50
(23) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
(29) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
(37) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance: Level 50
(50) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
Level 24: Fortification
(A) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
(25) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
(25) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 26: Tactical Training: Maneuvers
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
Level 28: Serum
(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 50
(37) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(40) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Doctored Wounds - Recharge: Level 50
Level 30: Mental Training
(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 32: Crab Spider Armor Upgrade
(A) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
(34) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
(43) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 35: Boxing
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(36) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(36) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(36) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
Level 38: Tough
(A) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
(39) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
(39) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
(45) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection: Level 30
Level 41: Soul Tentacles
(A) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(42) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
(42) Enfeebled Operation - Endurance/Immobilize: Level 50
(42) Enfeebled Operation - Immobilize/Range: Level 50
(43) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge: Level 50
(45) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize: Level 50
Level 44: Dark Obliteration
(A) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff: Level 50
(45) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/ToHit Debuff: Level 50
(46) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(46) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(46) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(48) Siphon Insight - Chance for +ToHit: Level 50
Level 47: Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(48) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 40
(48) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance: Level 40
(50) Gift of the Ancients - Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(50) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
Level 49: Combat Jumping
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 2: Rest
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 1: Conditioning
Level 0: Ninja Run
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Hey guys, rookie on Build issues looking for help.
I've recently got my Crab to 50,and i have a respec left,and want to respec into a good Farm build and an alt build for PVP. But for RP issues, i wanted to stay with the Mu Patron Powers,and the three Pet powers.
Is there anyway you guys could help me on this?
My actual build covered the whole Soldier Gadget tree,and the Crab Training only left Serum out.
On the Soldier build,only Single SHot and Web Grenade.
Crab Spider has all the ranged attacks, no nova and no frenzy.
I can also skip Travel Powers,and was thinking of staying away from Super Speed and Jump too. Maybe stick with Jetpack.
Do you guys think that with these things in mind,can a good PVE/FARM and a PVP build be created?
Suggestions and critics are welcome!