Some help Decision Making


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So Im in love with my Bane. Like. <3. Anyways I want to IO my beautiful Bane and Im not sure if Im going in the right direction.

My overall goal is a powerful Survivable PvE Build.

I hate redraw, so I skipped Venom Grenade, but if I could push the Envelope and solo AVs thatd be wonderful, however I dont think he can quite go that far.

Id just like some feedback or suggestions concerning Areas of inefficiency or alternative ideas for an IO focus beyond +Def, +Rech, +HP

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Dark Jazz2: Level 50 Natural Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Bane Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Bane Spider Training
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Bash -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(3), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(3), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), T'Death-Dam%(39)
Level 1: Wolf Spider Armor -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(50)
Level 2: Bane Spider Armor Upgrade -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(9), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(9)
Level 4: Combat Training: Defensive -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), GftotA-Def(5), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(5)
Level 6: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(13), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(13), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(15), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(15), GSFC-Build%(17)
Level 8: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 10: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), GftotA-Def(11), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(11)
Level 12: Pulverize -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(17), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(19), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), T'Death-Dam%(37)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(36), RgnTis-Regen+(40), Mrcl-Heal(40), Numna-Heal(40), Numna-Heal/Rchg(43)
Level 18: Shatter -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(25), Hectmb-Dam%(34), Mako-Dam%(37)
Level 20: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(21), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(23), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(43), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(46), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(50)
Level 22: Mental Training -- Run-I(A)
Level 24: Cloaking Device -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Super Jump -- Zephyr-ResKB(A), Zephyr-Travel(27), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(27)
Level 28: Boxing -- Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(A), Amaze-Stun(29), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(29), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(31), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(31)
Level 30: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(31), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 32: Crowd Control -- Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(33), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(33), Armgdn-Dam%(34), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 35: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), GftotA-Def(36), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 38: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Web Envelope -- GravAnch-Immob/EndRdx(A), GravAnch-Immob(42), GravAnch-Acc/Immob/Rchg(42), GravAnch-Immob/Rchg(42), GravAnch-Acc/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Shatter Armor -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(45), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(45), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), T'Death-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Surveillance -- ShldBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ShldBrk-Acc/Rchg(48), ShldBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(48), ShldBrk-Acc/DefDeb(48), Achilles-ResDeb%(50)
Level 49: Tactical Training: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Conditioning
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:

  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  • 12.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  • 9.88% Defense(Smashing)
  • 9.88% Defense(Lethal)
  • 7.06% Defense(Fire)
  • 7.06% Defense(Cold)
  • 5.81% Defense(Energy)
  • 5.81% Defense(Negative)
  • 6.75% Defense(Psionic)
  • 16.8% Defense(Melee)
  • 8.63% Defense(Ranged)
  • 11.1% Defense(AoE)
  • 60% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 82.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 5% FlySpeed
  • 100.4 HP (9.37%) HitPoints
  • 5% JumpHeight
  • 5% JumpSpeed
  • Knockback (Mag -8)
  • Knockup (Mag -8)
  • MezResist(Confused) 2.5%
  • MezResist(Held) 10.8%
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 10.8%
  • MezResist(Sleep) 2.5%
  • MezResist(Stun) 2.5%
  • MezResist(Terrorized) 2.5%
  • 37.5% (0.66 End/sec) Recovery
  • 22% (1.18 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 10.1% Resistance(Fire)
  • 10.1% Resistance(Cold)
  • 5% RunSpeed


 

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The thing I find with my bane is he is a tough toon to build. There's a lot I'd like to take on him but in order to keep high all around defenses and high recharge I have to be picky.

Just glancing at your build and what you would like to do with him I would suggest fitting in aid self somewhere (which means you'll need to make room for 2 slots). Hits -will- get through your defenses at some point and if you are taking on AVs esp you will need a way to recover those hit points.

Venom grenade is a nice debuff, yeah the redraw sucks but if you can can consider it then it can do 2 things for ya: you can stack -20% dam resis on a group of mobs, or with shatter armor and surveillance -60% on a single mob. If you can stand venom grenade (I know ya hate the redraw but just trying to open up your mind to a few new combos) you could also replace pulverize with poisonous ray (both available at lvl 12) and have a seriously hard hitting attack; venom grenade is -20% damage resist, but it is -40% for toxic and poisonous ray is 100% toxic damage. I see you have put together an expensive build and poisonous ray would allow you to 5 slot apocalypses + an achilles heel -resist proc.

I would also try and fit in hasten and 3 slot it if you could.

Call reinforcements might be okay for fighting AVs, its mindless damage and you could 4 slot purples for 16% regen, 3% health and 4% damage.

You could also consider switching patrons to ghost widow for gloom and darkest night for mitigation purpos... wait, I forget I'm talking to a bane spider lol.

These are of course just my opinions, again there's a lot of ways to build a bane. If you could manage capped defenses, decent resists (with slotted armors, tough and the +3% pvp unique you could get @ 40-41% S/L resist and 15-20% for most others with your current IO selections) and 80-90% global recharge you will have a solid fighting machine. Also try and get your hitpoints up to @ 1700-1800ish (you need accolades and bane spider armor upgrade to do this). A bane's only serious weakness is their complete lack of defense debuff resistance. There's a lot of folk who have some pretty nasty bane spiders so I'm sure you will get a lot more feedback.


 

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I have Capped Melee and Ranged, with 10% off from AoE Defense, 40% S/L Res, a passive 82% recharge and 1600HP w/ Accolades which Im already working on.

I dont like redraw, and Poison Ray is such a slow animation that Id rather spam another melee attack so that I opted out of it, and Venom grenade as well since they wont have that efficiency.

Should they ever Fix Venom Nade and do what they did for Crabs and give Banes a Mace Based Venom Grenade then Id likely take it. Til then Surv with Shatter should be plenty, especially if the Achilles proc hits.

And yea, I agree, I find myself wanting to squeeze more powers in, but just not having the slots to do it. Id still like to add Tactics, Aid Self, Phase and Web Cocoon along with the mass Immob, but theres just not the room for it.


 

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Here's a quick build I made that might give you some ideas on how to improve a bit. With cloak supressed melee is a 46.3, ranged at 50.9 and AE at 38.8. Has 1812 hit points (with all hp accolades) and 95 global recharge, but no hasten. Has aid self too. Expensive build though.

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Ill take a look when I get home. Expense really isnt an issue, Ive got about 3 bil socked away to work on this character :P The only thing is Im not going to be too reliant on BotZ for extra defense if thats what you did. I hate taking multiple travel powers.


 

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Originally Posted by Jeminiks View Post
Ill take a look when I get home. Expense really isnt an issue, Ive got about 3 bil socked away to work on this character :P The only thing is Im not going to be too reliant on BotZ for extra defense if thats what you did. I hate taking multiple travel powers.
especially with the upcoming reduction in defense from BotZ, really doesn't make much sense to stack them any more


 

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If money were no object

soft capped to range/melee. Just shy of perma hasten/perma pets

with arcana time and redraw factored in I had it calculated around 260 dps. With pets out proly 400 dps.

Haven't looked at it in a while, but I think it has enough recovery to fight for quite a while.

edit: If BaB's every fixed redraw this would be a toon I'd play forever. Not to mention it's performance would increase substantially.

Mine is at 42 and while really cool, it is just so clunky to play with major redraw caused by both venom and surveillance.

At least 60% st -res, good team buffs, and a heap of damage is a recipe for awesomeness. But playing it is like a new driver learning a standard. Jerky.
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