end drains are ok, but they are not very effective against NPCs
even if you drain most enemies they will still be able to attack you even with just that tiny sliver of end and stronger targets like AVs and GMs will regenerate end too fast for you to drain on your own as well
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End draining provided there is -recovery stops enemies from attacking at all. Just tested to make sure my memories were correct, using a Kin/Elec 'fender.|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
end drains are ok, but they are not very effective against NPCs
even if you drain most enemies they will still be able to attack you even with just that tiny sliver of end and stronger targets like AVs and GMs will regenerate end too fast for you to drain on your own as well |
The -recovery on a Fire/Elec blaster, however, is scarce. Each of the melee's has only a 20-50% chance of -recovery, and it will only last 2-4 seconds (according to Mids). Even Power Sink (I just realized this) only has a 30% chance for -recovery. However, with the constant -end from melee attacks and ticks from Lightning Field, I'm wondering if it's enough to get by. I should have mentioned the problem of lack of -recovery in my first post...I did read from another thread that NPC's have higher costs for attacks, base 7.something instead of 5 like we do. Anyone know a usual AV's rate of recovery?
as long as you keep the -recov up it does help a little bit, but thats all focusing on single target not multiple targets
as for AVs/GMs they usually have 800 end base value then they have usually very high resistance to end drains too (i think 85% resist to end drains base value)
i dont recall the recovery rate off the top my head, but their very high resist to end drain and end recovery makes it very hard to take out their end solo
This strategy seems more viable with Elec/Elec than Fire/Elec simply because of the all-important Short Circuit. An /Elec heavy attack chain with crazy recharge on Power Sink could certainly shred a target's endurance bar, and after playing in some all-electric supergroups I've seen a great many archvillains stand around stupidly with zero endurance while we pummeled them. However, the -recovery chance in most of the melee attacks is pretty unreliable, and REALLY big stuff probably would take too long to wear down with just -end.
For pretty much any end-draining build though, having even a single partner who also packs end drains can make a huge difference. While it is often faster to kill than to disarm when solo, when you have double the draining you start to look at serious mitigation potential.
Rule number six of an empathy defender is NEVER underestimate a blaster's ability to die. I don't care if he has CM, Fort, both RAs, bubbles (both FF and Sonic), and is fighting next to a Storm defender with hurricane on. If there is a way to die in that situation, the blaster will find it.
Just how effective can this [/Elec melee's and Power Sink on a high recharge build] be against single targets - namely, EB's and even AV's/GM's?
I've got a build that can get Power Sink down to an 18 second recharge, but I'm just wondering if it along with rapid melee's in /Elec plus constant -end ticking from LF would be able to neuter these guys, and after how long...
*Charged Brawl -7% end
Havoc -10% end
Shocking -7% end
Lightning -2% end every 2 seconds
And each of those has a chance for -recovery for a few seconds, minus Lightning Field. Power Sink would be -67% end on my build, and followed by each of those (Brawl-Shocking-Havoc-Brawl for instance with 2 ticks of LF would take a total of about 4.5 seconds on my build) would be another -35% end. Yes, providing they all land.
-35% end every 5 seconds seems pretty strong, but do AV's/GM's resist it quite a bit? Or just have extra endurance to start with or a lot of recovery?
I've got a Fire/Elec blapper in mind that could have a ton of DPS but survivability against harder targets could hinge on end drain. I have a perfect picture of either popping a few purples and proceeding to end drain EB's and AV's, or somehow incorporating PFF into it. (Power Sink, PFF, wait 18 seconds, Power Sink and then melee's?)
I'd like to keep the slotting and potential DPS, but not sure if the survivability against these targets will be there. Anyone with experience have any ideas? Then again, I might just have to figure it out myself.
*numbers coming from Mids