It really depnds on your definition of "best". Hibernate has the shortest recharge and heals you as well but you can't do anything else while using it.
Consume works the fastest and is only slightly longer recharge than Hibernate but you need to be in melee range to use it and it's the last power in the pool so you'll have to take at least two other Fire pool powers.
Conserve Power has the longest leadtime and has to be used in advance but it's actually got pretty decent uptime (about 30% without global rechage) and unlike the other two isn't a one time boost.
The other considerations are of course the other powers in the pool.
Hmm. I might have to give some thought to going energy for my ill/rad's group build. The knockback might be pretty useful for hitting mobs that are debuff anchors back into a group.
Ice could be very useful for solo'ing until I get perma PA.
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My Ill/Rad guide discusses the APP power sets. The problem with the Primal set is a weak AoE damage power and a lack of effective powers to gain max benefit from Power Boost. Conserve power works only if you remember to fire it off BEFORE using the endurance. Otherwise, it will reduce your endurance use when you're not using it the most.|
Originally Posted by Prime_Nighthawk
Hmm. I might have to give some thought to going energy for my ill/rad's group build. The knockback might be pretty useful for hitting mobs that are debuff anchors back into a group.
Ice could be very useful for solo'ing until I get perma PA. |
Personally, I like the Fire APP for its good, fast AoE damage and its best single target blast. Ice is my second choice. However, each of the APP sets has its good points.
On my non-perma PA build, I used Consume. AM handled my endurance problems most of the time, but in big fights with all the toggle debuffs running, I could have end problems for a short time. Consume was good enough to get me by on those few times. At one point, I was doing a Respec and decided to try Primal . . . but then went back to Fire on the next Respec. On my Perma-PA build, I have so much Recovery that I didn't need Consume. My guide has a recent post with my perma PA build.
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On my Illusion/Storm I use Hibernate. She's got so many droppable pets and pseudo-pets that being out of action for a few seconds doesn't matter in the slightest. Drop em all, ice up and recover. And if she's got a lot of aggro around her while iced up pop Hurricane, then drop Hibernate and everything blows away and gets debuffed. Saved my *** loads of times.
For an Illusion/Rad I'd probably go with Consume though since your toggles becoming ineffective whilest Hibernated wouldn't be nice. But for me the rest of the Ice set is more appealing than the Fire one (Frost Breath is highly underrated IMO and Ice Armour > Fire Armour for stacking with ToHit debuffs).
Conserve Power is nice too, but takes ages to recharge and Primal isn't the best combined with Illusion IMO (even though thematically it's probably the closest match). There's not enough gain from Power Boost.
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I use the Ice APP on my Ill/Storm, too, along with most of my */Storm controllers (I have a bunch). Radiation has a self-heal and a self-recovery power, while Storm has neither. Hibernation covers both areas at the cost of being out of the action for a short time. I also like Frost Breath over Ice Storm for that character because of the lack of an AoE Immob -- they can run out of Ice Storm.|
Originally Posted by Carnifax
On my Illusion/Storm I use Hibernate. She's got so many droppable pets and pseudo-pets that being out of action for a few seconds doesn't matter in the slightest. Drop em all, ice up and recover. And if she's got a lot of aggro around her while iced up pop Hurricane, then drop Hibernate and everything blows away and gets debuffed. Saved my *** loads of times.
For an Illusion/Rad I'd probably go with Consume though since your toggles becoming ineffective whilest Hibernated wouldn't be nice. But for me the rest of the Ice set is more appealing than the Fire one (Frost Breath is highly underrated IMO and Ice Armour > Fire Armour for stacking with ToHit debuffs). Conserve Power is nice too, but takes ages to recharge and Primal isn't the best combined with Illusion IMO (even though thematically it's probably the closest match). There's not enough gain from Power Boost. |
When you have a self-heal, a resistance-based shield becomes more effective and more consistant. Instead of the hit-or-miss, all-or-nothing of Defense, you get a consistant 30+% reduction in damage which can be made up for with a self-heal.
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Over Ice Storm? Never. I'd never forgo my Snow Storm -> FR -> Ice Storm combo |
Originally Posted by Local_Man
I use the Ice APP on my Ill/Storm, too, along with most of my */Storm controllers (I have a bunch). Radiation has a self-heal and a self-recovery power, while Storm has neither. Hibernation covers both areas at the cost of being out of the action for a short time. I also like Frost Breath over Ice Storm for that character because of the lack of an AoE Immob -- they can run out of Ice Storm.
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| When you have a self-heal, a resistance-based shield becomes more effective and more consistant. Instead of the hit-or-miss, all-or-nothing of Defense, you get a consistant 30+% reduction in damage which can be made up for with a self-heal. |
Defense sets can give you some ghetto mez protection, but that said I'm not sure how much high-end Mez is Smashing or Lethal. Most seems to be Psi.
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Carnies and Rikti, anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if Malta Gunslinger holds/Operations Officer stun grenades had an S/L component, especially the latter. And anyway, if mez is really worrying you, go ././Psi.
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Originally Posted by Carnifax
Defense sets can give you some ghetto mez protection, but that said I'm not sure how much high-end Mez is Smashing or Lethal. Most seems to be Psi.
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Question: out of the epic APP's which has the best end recovery skill?
Conserve power, hibernate, or or the fire one.