Chance for +Mag2 on Choking cloud
By
Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2010-03-01 10:44 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
It is a separate proc chance. So, it can hold mobs not held by Choking Cloud, or add additional mag to ones already affected by it.
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It is good either way as you said. I put in volcanic gasses as well. I hold all AV's with ease, except Lord Recluse, although once I thought he was held for less than a second, but it may have been a late night STF induced hallucination.
Choking Cloud without Lockdown +2 hold was a 1/5 star power.
Choking Cloud with Lockdown +2 hold moves to a 4/5 star power.
I can't tell if it stacks to be honest.
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I'm not quite sure why you are giving Choking Cloud 3 more stars just because once every 10 seconds, you've got a 15% chance to hold higher level entities for 8 seconds. You're still going to have a 2 second downtime at the very minimum and because you're only checking the proc once every 10 seconds thanks to it being a toggle, it's not all that likely that you'll get consecutive procs anyway.
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Originally Posted by NightSable
Choking Cloud without Lockdown +2 hold was a 1/5 star power.
Choking Cloud with Lockdown +2 hold moves to a 4/5 star power. |
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Originally Posted by Umbral
I'm not quite sure why you are giving Choking Cloud 3 more stars ....
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He gave it 3 star because he can.... an expression of how much more he likes the power. I get tired of people being attacked for their opinions. Giving stars or saying you like it is JUST that, an honest opinion.
Your counter point is fine, but it's an opinion.
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Actually, what I posted was facts about the proc chance, proc rate, and proc durations. Opinions are debatable and applied in a qualified manner. You cannot debate that the proc chance is 15%, the duration of it is 8 seconds, and that, because it's slotted in a toggle, it only checks once every 10 seconds. You cannot similarly debate that the power is already providing a larger proc chance more often and with an base duration only slightly more than half a second shorter.|
Originally Posted by LAST_RONIN
Your counter point is fine, but it's an opinion.
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I'm legitimately curious as to why giving a power that is already providing a stronger effect is somehow a 1/5 when giving it a tiny chance to provide additional mez for a part of the time is suddenly so much greater.
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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
It is a separate proc chance. So, it can hold mobs not held by Choking Cloud, or add additional mag to ones already affected by it.
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Ok so rather than what I thought was one or the other, it's can sometimes be both? hold those who didn't get held by cloud as well as stack it on those that did? Good stuff, that's what I was hoping for. I figured that if they had one of the animations going on, then that's the hold they were getting. Obviously I haven't stared at the combat window while doing this yet, just came to me at work after last night's adventure. Maybe if I can figure out how to play at work and not get caught....hmm......lol
Thanks guys! Much appreciation!
My Ice/Rad is a proccing Uber troller:
Lock down +2 mag in Choking Cloud.
Contagious Confusion proc in Arctic Air.
Grav Anchor chance for hold in Frostbite.
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Been liking this proc a lot on my Rad/Rad corr's C-cloud. the quesion came to me last night. Does this stack an extra +mag2 on the foe that's already held by choking's hold? Or is it a chance for just a Mag2 hold on it's own? Either way is good I guess, the mob is held with extra mag, or the proc affects those who don't get hit by choking, which means more mobs held. So either way it benefits me, just wondering for curiosity's sake, I started wondering when I tried it out and noticed the different animation between the two holds. (that elec shackle animation). Thanks, you guys are awesome