I'd say yes, swap the slotting around between Grant Cover and Battle Agility.
The only other thing that jumps out at me is trying to find another slot for a 4th Eradication in Soul Drain. It'll give you some more HP, which will help a Shield Defense character.
Hami-Os in Active Defense will let you get some more DDR as well. You can't slot for defense in it, but one of the Hami-Os enhances both defense and recarge, and Active Defense will accept it.
Otherwise it looks pretty solid.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
I'm not qualified to talk about DM, but as far as the SD side is concerned, your biggest problems are 1) True Grit not slotted for +HP (it helps more than the minor exotic resistances) and 2) non-softcapped defense, especially melee defense (you can skimp on AoE a little, and maaaaybe ranged, but I'd try to softcap melee if possible).
Here is one I made a while back that shouldn't cost too much influence
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Dark/Shield Build Thread
Is this going to be your TF runner? This is what I would do if I level my DM/SD to 50, which I'm not.
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Gimu TF Runner: Level 50 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(11), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Mako-Dam%(17)
Level 1: Deflection -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), HO:Cyto(7), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(31), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Aegis-ResDam(50)
Level 2: Shadow Maul -- Armgdn-Dmg(A), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(3), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Armgdn-Dam%(5)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), HO:Cyto(9), DefBuff-I(11)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Zephyr-ResKB(9), Zephyr-Travel(34), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(37)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(23), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(25), Nictus-Heal(33), Nictus-Acc/Heal(33)
Level 10: Active Defense -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Enzym(43)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(15), Zephyr-ResKB(15)
Level 16: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(17)
Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(19), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(19), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Oblit-%Dam(23)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), P'Shift-EndMod(33), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(34), P'Shift-End%(34)
Level 22: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 24: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Aegis-ResDam(50)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(27), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(27), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Oblit-%Dam(31)
Level 28: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), HO:Enzym(31)
Level 30: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 38: True Grit -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(39), Aegis-ResDam(39), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(39), Heal-I(40), Heal-I(40)
Level 41: Ring of Fire -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Melt Armor -- ShldBrk-DefDeb(A), ShldBrk-Acc/DefDeb(45), ShldBrk-Acc/Rchg(45), ShldBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(45), ShldBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46), ShldBrk-%Dam(46)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(48), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Ragnrk-Knock%(50)
Level 49: Grant Cover -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
This does assume that you have the 60Mo Vet reward which allows you to skip the travel power pre-req. The build will have softcapped defenses to all positions for those mid level TFs, switch the level 32 enh for level 31s if you want those bonuses to carry over to moonfire as well.
Edit: Forgot to put the stealth IO in sprint.
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a repost from a different thread, here's what I currently run ingame. No fitness but with the amount of recharge and Dark Consumption I've never had a problem with endurance.
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It was a conscious decision not to pick up MG, and all I'm losing is one extra attack that I can fit into an already adequate attack chain. Were I to solo AVs and such then I'd probably fit it in but that's not my intention with this build.
All in all I'd say that is less egregious than the slotting of deflection, dark consumption, soul drain, grant cover, and true grit in your build. The lack of ACC and recharge in dark consumption is especially glaring, since you didn't take stamina and you only have 25% global acc. Also, though I'm fuzzy about the mechanics of the +end proc, I believe that proc will give your foes the end, not you.
The same lack of acc applies to soul drain. I suppose you can herd a whole bunch of foes and hope that enough get hit to give you the maximum bonus/or just eat some yellows, even then I still wouldn't be comfortable with that power slotted with no ACCs.
Deflection and GC are overslotted, you can drop at least one level 50 def from deflection and dump it into True Grit for more HP, and even though I know what you are trying to do with GC I still don't think it's worth the heavy investment in slots.
Some great builds here. They're really showing me a different angle than what I had been focused on previously. For example, I had never considered to slot deflection with less than the ED-cap def, but with sufficient Obliterations and other Melee bonusing sets, it's not an issue. The Fire ancilary gives great defensive results as well. Lots to think about here. Probably will make some compromises in order to not have to too radically alter my playstyle ( I like Hasten for example, and would like to skip Dark Consumption still as I have Endurance totally under control) or pull my teeth chasing Obliterations, but I can clearly take some cues and get myself beefed up a bit. One small thing that I take into consideration is that, the vast majority of the time I will have some kind of Mystic Fortune buff on me (as I mostly run TFs and am a compulsive team Fortune-teller), about half of which give a +5% def so even if I am at 42-ish% to all, I tend to be effectively softcapped in most circumstances.
Thanks for the excellent feedback folks. Much appreciated.
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Your build, your play style. However Midnight Graps > Shadow Maul by ALOT. less activation time, immob, Superior damage. With solid recharge you should be able to easily chain Smite - Siphon Life - Shadow Maul. Which is a much higher damage output attack chain that what you've currently got in place.
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Originally Posted by Nemu_
It was a conscious decision not to pick up MG, and all I'm losing is one extra attack that I can fit into an already adequate attack chain. Were I to solo AVs and such then I'd probably fit it in but that's not my intention with this build.
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I finally have gotten around to using Mids for the first time and thought I'd submit the build for my DM/SD Who's Your Bonedaddy (Liberty). It's got a fair amount of infl in it and I'd like to fine tune him to get the most from the build. While I am currently very happy with its performance, I am open to adjusting. At first glance, it seems as though I could benefit slightly from swapping the slotting for Grant Cover with the slotting for Battle Agility. What do you see as the build's most glaring weakness. DDR?
I do have a couple requests: I'd like to keep Grant Cover and keep Leaping as my travel power.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
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Who's Your Bonedaddy: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Punch
- (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
- (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
- (5) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- (5) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (7) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 40
Level 1: Deflection- (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (17) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
- (19) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (19) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (21) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 50
- (40) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 50
Level 2: Smite- (A) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (7) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (9) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (9) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50
- (11) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (11) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
Level 4: Shadow Maul- (A) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (13) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (13) Multi Strike - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (15) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
- (15) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (17) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 6: Battle Agility- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance: Level 40
- (37) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (37) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 40
- (39) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 40
Level 8: Hasten- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (37) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 10: Combat Jumping- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range: Level 50
- (33) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance: Level 50
- (36) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50
Level 12: True Grit- (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
- (33) Resist Damage IO: Level 50
Level 14: Swift- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 16: Siphon Life- (A) Touch of the Nictus - Healing: Level 50
- (21) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (23) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge: Level 50
- (23) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (27) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (29) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
Level 18: Health- (A) Miracle - Heal: Level 40
- (25) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
- (25) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50
- (27) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
Level 20: Super Jump- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range: Level 50
- (29) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance: Level 50
- (31) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50
Level 22: Stamina- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50
- (31) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
- (33) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (39) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (39) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
- (40) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
Level 24: Active Defense- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (34) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 26: Soul Drain- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
- (34) Eradication - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (34) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 28: Against All Odds- (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 30: Phalanx Fighting- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (31) Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 30
Level 32: Boxing- (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
Level 35: Shield Charge- (A) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (40) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (42) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage: Level 50
- (42) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (42) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (43) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
Level 38: Midnight Grasp- (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
- (43) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- (43) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
- (46) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- (46) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (50) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 40
Level 41: Tough- (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 44: Weave- (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (45) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 50
- (46) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 50
Level 47: Grant Cover- (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (48) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
- (48) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (48) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 50
- (50) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 50
Level 49: One with the Shield- (A) Resist Damage IO: Level 50
------------Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 2: Rest- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 1: Critical Hit------------
Set Bonus Totals:
- 13.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 13.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 13.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 13.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 13.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 13.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 13.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 13.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 7.69% Defense(Smashing)
- 7.69% Defense(Lethal)
- 8.63% Defense(Fire)
- 8.63% Defense(Cold)
- 11.8% Defense(Energy)
- 11.8% Defense(Negative)
- 3% Defense(Psionic)
- 12.4% Defense(Melee)
- 15.8% Defense(Ranged)
- 14.3% Defense(AoE)
- 3.6% Max End
- 39% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 42.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 5% FlySpeed
- 90.4 HP (6.75%) HitPoints
- 5% JumpHeight
- 5% JumpSpeed
- Knockback (Mag -8)
- Knockup (Mag -8)
- MezResist(Held) 5.5%
- MezResist(Immobilize) 15.4%
- MezResist(Sleep) 1.65%
- MezResist(Stun) 1.65%
- 15% (0.25 End/sec) Recovery
- 12% (0.67 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 12.3% Resistance(Fire)
- 9.76% Resistance(Cold)
- 12.5% RunSpeed
------------Set Bonuses:
Touch of Death
(Shadow Punch)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
- 20.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- 2.5% DamageBuff(All)
- MezResist(Held) 2.75%
- 3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)
Red Fortune(Deflection)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
- 1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 2% DamageBuff(All)
- 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 2.5% Defense(Ranged), 1.25% Defense(Energy), 1.25% Defense(Negative)
Hecatomb(Smite)
- 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
- 2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 15% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Multi Strike(Shadow Maul)
- MezResist(Sleep) 1.65%
- 0.95% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- MezResist(Stun) 1.65%
- 1.88% Defense(AoE), 0.94% Defense(Fire), 0.94% Defense(Cold)
- 1.88% Defense(Melee), 0.94% Defense(Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Smashing)
Gift of the Ancients(Battle Agility)
- 2% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
- 2.5% Resistance(Fire)
- 1.8% Max End
- 7.5% RunSpeed
Blessing of the Zephyr(Combat Jumping)
- 3.13% Defense(Ranged), 1.56% Defense(Energy), 1.56% Defense(Negative)
- 3.13% Defense(AoE), 1.56% Defense(Fire), 1.56% Defense(Cold)
- Knockback Protection (Mag -4)
Steadfast Protection(True Grit)
- 3% Defense(All)
Touch of the Nictus(Siphon Life)
- 25.1 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
Mako's Bite(Siphon Life)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 3.3%
Miracle(Health)
- 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
Numina's Convalescence(Health)
- 12% (0.67 HP/sec) Regeneration
Blessing of the Zephyr(Super Jump)
- 3.13% Defense(Ranged), 1.56% Defense(Energy), 1.56% Defense(Negative)
- 3.13% Defense(AoE), 1.56% Defense(Fire), 1.56% Defense(Cold)
- Knockback Protection (Mag -4)
Performance Shifter(Stamina)
- 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
- 25.1 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
- 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
- 2.5% DamageBuff(All)
- 3.13% Defense(AoE), 1.56% Defense(Fire), 1.56% Defense(Cold)
Eradication(Soul Drain)
- 1.8% Max End
- 3.13% Defense(Energy,Negative), 1.56% Defense(Ranged)
Luck of the Gambler(Phalanx Fighting)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Armageddon(Shield Charge)
- 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
- 2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 15% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Touch of Death(Midnight Grasp)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
- 20.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- 2.5% DamageBuff(All)
- MezResist(Held) 2.75%
- 3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)
Red Fortune(Weave)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
- 1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 2% DamageBuff(All)
- 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Red Fortune(Grant Cover)