Help with a Build Axe/Inv


Ascalon1

 

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Hi, I have a lvl 50 Axe/Inv Brute, but I've never been comfortable with his build. So I'm looking to see if anyone can help make him more effective.

Namely what powers should I rely on what ones can I pass up. Should I get Tough and Weave. What is the best way to slot him. I hope you can be of help.


 

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It's hard to make recommendations that might improve your build without actually seeing your current build. If it's in Mid's, just post it here. Otherwise, at least give us an idea of what powers you've taken and how they're slotted.


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I have Mids but I don't have my build saved to it. This was never a very well though up build so I know it needs alot of work.

Axe

Beheader - 4 slots 4 Pcs of Crushing Blow
Chop - 5 slots 5 pcs of Forced Smite
Gash - 4 slots 4 pcs of Mako Bite
Build Up - 1 slot 1 Recharge
Whirl Axe - 3 slots 3 Sciorrico Dervish
Cleave - 4 slots 1 DMG, 2 END, 1 Recharge
Pendulum - 5 slots 2 DMG, 2 END, 1 Recharge

Inv

Res Phy Damage - 3 slots 3pc of Impervium Armor
Temp Invul - 6 slots 6 pcs of Aegis
Dull Pain - 6 slots 6 pcs of Doctored Wounds
Unyeilding - 5 slots 5 pcs of Titanium Coating
Invicibility - 6 slots 3 DEF, 3 Recharge
Resist Energies - 3 slots 3 Resists Damge
Tough Hide - 3 slots 3 DEF
Unstoppable - 6 slots 5 Impervium Skin, 1 Recharge

Hover - 1 slot 1 Fly
Fly - 3 slots 3 Fly

Swift - 1 slot 1 Fly
Health - 3 slots 3 Numina including Reg/Recovery
Stamina - 3 slots 3 Performance Shift

Soul Mastery

Soul Tenticles - 4 Slots 1 DMG, 2 END, 1 IMMOB
Darkest Night - 4 Slots 1 Recharge, 3 To Hit Debuff
Dark Obliliteration - 4 Slots 4 Detonation
Summon Widow - 4 slots 3 Recharge, 1 Damage


 

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1. Don't overloop Swoop- it is an excellent power both in terms of power and having knock up.

2. I would add another recharge to build up.

3. That's a lot of patron powers. I didn't take any on my 50 axe/wp, and I don't regret it. YMMV.

4. If you are coughing up for numina's, I figure you can afford a + end Performance shifter proc in stamina. Maybe you are already counting that in Stamina-lots 3 Performance Shift.

5. I six slotted cleave, pendulum and whirling ax (and swoop). Of course I'm a "best defense is a good offense" kinda guy.


 

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Well I'm trying to find a build that can allow my Brute to take one hell of a beating, yet dish out the Damage just as well.


 

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I recomend trying to get as much typed defense bonus' as you possibly can. If you can get your positionals to 30 to 35 %...invinciblity will take care of the rest and have you soft capped on smash/lethal, energy, and fire/cold. A set of 4 eradication in each of your aoe powers will give you real nice bonus to your health and energy defense. After defenses you need as much end recovery bonus as possible.
I also suggest dropping all the patron powers and get boxing/tough/weave from the fighting pool.


 

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Originally Posted by Ascalon1 View Post
Well I'm trying to find a build that can allow my Brute to take one hell of a beating, yet dish out the Damage just as well.
If you want to play to invuln's strengths, you'll want to focus on what the set is great at: Smashing/Lethal Resistance and typed defense.

What that means is that tough will really add to your survival, as will picking IO's that offer good defense values on your typed defenses (and grabbing weave to help as well). Then, if you can manage enough recharge to make dull-pain perma, you will have heaps of HP, with layered defenses. However, a build that does this doesn't come cheap.

Your current build has some slotting issues. You won't need to 6-slot temp invul, nor does unstoppable need 6 slots.

If you do want to keep your pet and your patron, look at the recharge-intensive pet sets, as 4 slots will give you a recharge bonus.


 

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These have been some good ideas to look into, but I'm also looking for an full on build to go with if someone has one. The biggest problem it seems I have is I honestly don't know how many slots each power should have, or an idea of what IOs sets to really work with.

I'm willing to give up the Patron Powers and add Tough and Weave, just need to know how everything should be slotted now.


 

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I had some time, so I threw this build together for you; it's a basic defense build for a Axe/Invul brute. S/L defense is soft-capped, and E/NE defense nearly so.

Some notes:

I skipped Unstop and ResEl, since they are the most commonly skipped Invul powers in a soft-capped build, but you of course can put them back in, or replace them with Hasten, patron powers, or anything else you like. (There are only 4 slots left, so if you pick slot-intensive powers for the last two you'll have to move slots from other powers.)

I used Gift of the Ancients and Luck of the Gambler for the defense powers because I like the bonuses, but any defense set will do. Pick by what you can afford and what bonuses you prefer.

The some of the pieces in the Kinetic Combat sets are very expensive and hard to find, so keep in mind that you can use Smashing Haymaker instead for a lot less influence. The SH bonuses are smaller so you won't be at the soft-cap for S/L, but you'll still be very durable. (The KC sets put you at the soft-cap with one foe in range of Invinc, so if you team a lot you'll probably be running with more defense than that most of the time anyway.)

I slotted Health and Stamina pretty generically, but included the Perf Shifter chance for end and the Numina unique, which you said you had; so add whatever you'd like there. I didn't include any LotG +recharge, but you can of course add them if you have them on hand or plan to buy them.

The Kismet +Acc is a unique that I always like to get if possible--the ToHit bonus is very useful--and slotted in Tough Hide it is always active.

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Level 48 Natural Brute
Primary Power Set: Battle Axe
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Chop -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(15), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(23), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(23)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A), ResDam-I:50(3), ResDam-I:50(7)
Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(5), RctvArm-ResDam:40(5)
Level 4: Gash -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(25), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(25), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(34), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(34)
Level 6: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:50(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:50(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(9), Dct'dW-Heal:50(9), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(11)
Level 8: Swoop -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(13), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(15)
Level 10: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 12: Hover -- Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(43)
Level 14: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(43)
Level 16: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(17), RctvArm-ResDam:40(19)
Level 18: Health -- Heal-I:50(A), Heal-I:50(46), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(46)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(21), P'Shift-End%:50(21)
Level 22: Whirling Axe -- Erad-Dmg:30(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(37), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(40), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(40), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(40)
Level 24: Build Up -- Rec'dRet-ToHit:20(A), Rec'dRet-Pcptn:20(36), RechRdx-I:50(37), RechRdx-I:50(37)
Level 26: Cleave -- Erad-Dmg:30(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(27), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(27), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(31), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(31)
Level 28: Invincibility -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx:40(A), GftotA-Def/Rchg:40(29), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:40(29), GftotA-Def:40(31)
Level 30: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(45), KntkC'bat-Knock%:35(46)
Level 32: Pendulum -- Erad-Dmg:30(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(33), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(33), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(34)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(36), LkGmblr-Def:50(36), Ksmt-ToHit+:30(48)
Level 38: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(39), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(39), RctvArm-ResDam:40(39)
Level 41: Weave -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx:40(A), GftotA-Def/Rchg:40(42), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:40(42), GftotA-Def:40(42)
Level 44: Resist Energies -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(45), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(45), RctvArm-ResDam:40(48)
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
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Set Bonus Totals:

  • 24.9% Defense(Smashing)
  • 24.9% Defense(Lethal)
  • 3% Defense(Fire)
  • 3% Defense(Cold)
  • 20.5% Defense(Energy)
  • 20.5% Defense(Negative)
  • 3% Defense(Psionic)
  • 13.9% Defense(Melee)
  • 16.4% Defense(Ranged)
  • 3% Defense(AoE)
  • 9% Max End
  • 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 4% Enhancement(Heal)
  • 106.8 HP (7.13%) HitPoints
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 15.4%
  • MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
  • 20% Perception
  • 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
  • 40% (2.5 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 6.26% Resistance(Fire)
  • 1.26% Resistance(Cold)

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Knight Court--A CoH Story Complete 2/3/2012