Is perma Heatloss achievable?


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In a server chat channel someone was saying they had 206% rech but were still short several seconds on perma heatloss. I was just wondering if anyone had actually gotten Heatloss perma or run into someone with it perma


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You need a total of 300% recharge to get perma-heatloss (that is the stuff slotted in the power plus global). So if you slot it with 95% recharge then 206% should give you perma-heatloss. I'm not sure why it didn't, perhaps they only had two recharge enhancers in the power itself?


 

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Cast time.

Heat Loss takes a little bit over 2 seconds to cast. The effects take place immediately, but the recharge doesn't start until after the power is done casting.


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Is there a significant benefit to perma-Heat Loss versus close-to-perma? When I built my /Cold I didn't both shooting for perma Heat Loss because it seems to me it just gives you a small amount of extra Endurance. Just wondering why you would build for it, or whether this is just an idle question.


 

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not really a small amount but with multipe foes it gives a ton!

i dont think your using it right if you say its only a small amount.


 

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not really a small amount but with multipe foes it gives a ton!

i dont think your using it right if you say its only a small amount.

I don't mean the strength of the buff. I mean the effect it has once perma'ed.

The reason people want to perma Hasten and Accelerate Metabolism is that every second you are under a Recharge time bonus counts towards recharging the +Recharge power itself. For example, if you are under a Recharge bonus 50% of the time, you effectively get only 50% of the value of the Recharge power. Once the power is perma'd, you get twice as much value from the power.

Endurance Recovery has different implications. Every second you are under a Recovery bonus you recover more endurance. But the difference between 5 or 6 seconds from perma and being truly perma is only however much endurance you'd recover during those 5 or 6 seconds. Since you receive a huge jolt of instant Endurance every time you use Heat Loss anyway, there is virtually no noticeable difference between whether the power is perma or not.

What does matter is having the power recover quickly, but that's because it has 2 other effects that can't be perma'd: the endurance refill and the resistance debuff (which lasts 30 seconds).


 

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There's no special advantage to having perma-heatloss vs. having it 1s or 2s off perma, same with permahasten. Personally (and I suspect for most people too) the benefit of having 'perma' something is just the QoL improvement of not having to deal with varying levels of performance.


 

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I'd imagine if they achieved perma heatloss they'd have perma hasten


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