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Well, I guess its all depending what you are fighting. I can only see tough working a tiny bit vs. another melee class. For Example..I have a Dark/Sonic Defender that would pretty much **** regens..tough or not, and the only bit of hope I see for the regen I am fighting with that toon is being able to phase after i shut his regen down, and debuff him. I have fought plenty of regens that want to stand there and scrap it out..while debuffed to ****, only to lose like 6-0.
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Originally Posted by AresSupreme
ive tried both and clearly phase is the survivor's choice, and I do not die but in a arena match or whatever phase just seems to slow the match down as opposed to getting results where everyone has hibernate anyways and phase is two minutes apart. But if it ever gets tough I simply have the choice of stepping out of the action. Most things can't stop me when i'm actually moving on a regen scrapper but at the same time I won't kill them either where as tough allows me to stand my ground a bit longer and hopefully get the kill
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Good point. I duel blasters and doms a lot though and the DPS those boys can dish out is crazy, and tough takes a lot of that off. But yeah, for me it will always just be a choice. I like to keep things fresh constantly working out my toons respecing and reworking my 3 different scrappers, they usually will have either phase or tough, so i get it.
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Originally Posted by WarScribe
Also, Taking the Concealment pool allows you to stack stealth with a stealth IO, Which is also a greater survivability tool than having tough ( breaking LoS easier for evasion (lol evasion) ).
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Oh, and the last thing I wanted to say about Phase is that it works both ways. If You are wrecking someones face, and they phase, but you dont have phase..you just wait it out. But if you are wrecking someones face, and they phase and you have phase..you just phase with them and finish the kill.
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Originally Posted by AresSupreme
ive tried both and clearly phase is the survivor's choice, and I do not die but in a arena match or whatever phase just seems to slow the match down as opposed to getting results where everyone has hibernate anyways and phase is two minutes apart. But if it ever gets tough I simply have the choice of stepping out of the action. Most things can't stop me when i'm actually moving on a regen scrapper but at the same time I won't kill them either where as tough allows me to stand my ground a bit longer and hopefully get the kill
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Originally Posted by AresSupreme
Misread, but I can assure you that my English is better than yours. You seem so angry every time I find you on these forums, maybe get outside, and hit up a gym sometime or are you just rping an overweight dude with badskin? Lol this game is so serious. Take a chill pill kiddo, it's just a video game.
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@Psycho Jas
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Originally Posted by SoulTouch
For starters going down on barrier with outdated jokes wont get you very far, and I assure you that you will find this place a miserable one indeed if you continue - I'm speaking from experience, so drop the attitude.
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Originally Posted by SmegHead
GG barrier. You're good at breaking people down.
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Originally Posted by AresSupreme
Misread, but I can assure you that my English is better than yours. You seem so angry every time I find you on these forums, maybe get outside, and hit up a gym sometime or are you just rping an overweight dude with badskin? Lol this game is so serious. Take a chill pill kiddo, it's just a video game.
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Generic comebacks are generic..
You are retarded for three very specifc reasons:
1. You die on a regin. Soul touch killed you on one and when con and I asked you to 2v2, after running your mouth in RV and the boards, you went all quiet and pretended not to understand us.
2. Or maybe you do not grasp the language quite well. Reading before answering on the boards is hard? Srsly, I'd rather be huge and pimply than just uncurably dumb (proactiv + exercise could fix me).
3. You play a regen with tough. When people talk about downie regins, they are generally referring to the likes of you.
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I could have fun with this comment but Ares and Mod 8 won't like it.
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Originally Posted by SoulTouch
going down on barrier
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A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670
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Originally Posted by Black_Barrier
Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...
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I lol'd.
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Originally Posted by black_barrier
I'd rather be huge and pimply than just uncurably dumb (proactiv + exercise could fix me).
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I read like the first 3 words of that post and then decided...this again? no ty..waste..i Added barrier to my ignore list like immediately after that post lol, ignore > all of you. Sad part is that you all think this means anything here on these forums, video game my friends.|
Originally Posted by SoulTouch
For starters going down on barrier with outdated jokes wont get you very far, and I assure you that you will find this place a miserable one indeed if you continue - I'm speaking from experience, so drop the attitude. Secondly i'm pretty sure I farmed both your regen toons in the arena so saying that you don't lose in the arena with either is a massive lie. taking tough on a regen is beyond me, if you can get a power such as phase which will make you, if you're not half brain dead impossible to kill instead.
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If this is psycho jas or w/e, i beat ur psy blaster 1-0 and then u cried about greens not working lol ive been here before tho, just gonna add all of u to my ignore to avoid this forum pvp and get back to rv...GG
A video game you suck at. Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...
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Heh I especially like it when people on these forums lie.. A lot, not that 1v1's mean much, I only brought it up because you said you don't die, which you do... Unfortunatly quite often, so I'd be happy to rematch your very bad regen and show you again how badly you got beat, or you can sit here and lie - i'm going to guess you'll be going with the latter. - EDIT: It just so happens to be that 2 of my friends watched both duels btw. the one vs your MA/regen was pretty hillarious. you're terrible end off.
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Originally Posted by AresSupreme
I read like the first 3 words of that post and then decided...this again? no ty..waste..i Added barrier to my ignore list like immediately after that post lol, ignore > all of you. Sad part is that you all think this means anything here on these forums, video game my friends.
If this is psycho jas or w/e, i beat ur psy blaster 1-0 and then u cried about greens not working lol ive been here before tho, just gonna add all of u to my ignore to avoid this forum pvp and get back to rv...GG |
@Psycho Jas
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I'm having issues with my sig not showing but I claim this mine.
A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670
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Got my answers, done here. Thanks for info WarScribe and everyone else.
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@Psycho Jas
Ares you can't get all aggressive on a message board and then sound off with "but it's only a video game." If you really think it's just a video game then why not take some of your own advice and stop getting so heated. The people giving you advice might be doing it in an argumentative manner but that's because the phase/tough debate has taken place more times than any other debate in PVP. The long timers are bored about debating it.
If you want to get good at PVP I suggest you don't ignore the guys who are good at it. When I first came onto these boards I thought all the smacktalk meant that the dedicated PVPers were idiots. Turns out it's just their way of dealing with players that ignore decent advice (downies) or try and make up some pretend rules to pvp by (fiteclub/scrubs.) If you encountered these two types of players on a regular basis you would become bored of them as well.
I guess if you're going to PVP then don't take what people say to you so damn seriously.
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It's not that im taking it so serious, it is more like ive gotten into these long drawn out forum arguments before im done with that madness. I understand where you are coming from though.
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Originally Posted by Xanatos
Ares you can't get all aggressive on a message board and then sound off with "but it's only a video game." If you really think it's just a video game then why not take some of your own advice and stop getting so heated. The people giving you advice might be doing it in an argumentative manner but that's because the phase/tough debate has taken place more times than any other debate in PVP. The long timers are bored about debating it.
If you want to get good at PVP I suggest you don't ignore the guys who are good at it. When I first came onto these boards I thought all the smacktalk meant that the dedicated PVPers were idiots. Turns out it's just their way of dealing with players that ignore decent advice (downies) or try and make up some pretend rules to pvp by (fiteclub/scrubs.) If you encountered these two types of players on a regular basis you would become bored of them as well. I guess if you're going to PVP then don't take what people say to you so damn seriously. |
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I agree completely mate. Most forum arguments seem to end up with people arguing about word definitions for 20 pages LOL.
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Originally Posted by AresSupreme
It's not that im taking it so serious, it is more like ive gotten into these long drawn out forum arguments before im done with that madness. I understand where you are coming from though.
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lol, mine usually turn into pie discussions lol.
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Originally Posted by Xanatos
I agree completely mate. Most forum arguments seem to end up with people arguing about word definitions for 20 pages LOL.
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Key Lime pie?
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Originally Posted by AresSupreme
lol, mine usually turn into pie discussions lol.
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Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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No no no, apple.
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Originally Posted by Slax
Key Lime pie?
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bad pie
Also, Taking the Concealment pool allows you to stack stealth with a stealth IO, Which is also a greater survivability tool than having tough ( breaking LoS easier for evasion (lol evasion) ).
EDIT- For zone mostly.