Fire/Dark Build Critique Please


ClawsandEffect

 

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Stay strong, once you get a scrapper to their late 30's things get easier and more fun. Beyond that the sky is the limits.


I'll always be a "Champion" at heart. My server away from home.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

"With great moustache comes great responsibility" - Zee Captain

 

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Originally Posted by Stefanie View Post
whoah.. dark=win!

(he has a dark/elec brute) w00t :O

I'd play elec armor if I could stand the stupid graphics. but can't turn em off sooo.
Have you tried the dark-elec custom? My guess is all black might work for your tastes.

I treat resist sets a lot differently than defense sets. I'll scream at the RNG if I die on a defense toon, but on a resist toon, if I faceplant, I blame myself. It doesn't make too much sense, but if I die on a resist toon it's because I misjudged how much damage I would be taking before my heal was back up.

On a dark, you have a great heal. If I was to take one of those on an ITF, I probably wouldn't stack defense, because it only takes a couple hits for a billion inf in defense IOs to be rendered worthless. I'd go HP/regen/recov on a dark if you're planning on facing a lot of debuffs. If you won't be facing debuffs, defense is awesome.


 

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Thanks for the advice! <3 I am working on a dark/dark build right now, just to see what kind of numbers I can come up with ... really hoping/thinking I can have fun with this toon though! Never really played either one.


Mama Stefie, Candie Kisses, Starrmie, Starrie, StarrShyne, Starrlah, Kyandie
@Kiri-chan is my hubby!

 

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I was talking in a channel that I'm associated with when suddenly someone dropped a bombshell on me that's rather interesting! We all know how end heavy dark regeneration is...well someone notified me that there is an easy way to get around it. Theft of Essence chance for endurance. Apparently in an aoe heal that effects multiple targets it will check for the proc on each target. IE if you hit 10 targets with Dark Regeneration you will have 10 chances for the proc to succeed. 10 targets with a 20% chance for 10 endurance isn't bad at all. With luck and the proc goes off multiple times you may very well end up gaining more end than spent. But that is a gamble I suppose. So the question you have to ask your self is...do you feel lucky, punk? Well do you!?


I'll always be a "Champion" at heart. My server away from home.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

"With great moustache comes great responsibility" - Zee Captain

 

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LOL! thanks for that!! I did slot that in my build speaking of builds..here is a dark/dark I was working on.. PLEASE help! I'm not going for anything in particular, except for as much defense I can get while still making it playable. have fun, guys. thanks in advance for everything. <3

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SoulStarr: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Punch -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(3), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(11), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), T'Death-Dam%(43)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(3), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(13), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), TtmC'tng-ResDam(37), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(42)
Level 2: Smite -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(15), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Mako-Dam%(43)
Level 4: Shadow Maul -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(5), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(23), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Oblit-%Dam(43)
Level 6: Death Shroud -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(7), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(7), Oblit-%Dam(11), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- Theft-+End%(A), Nictus-%Dam(9), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(31), Nictus-Acc/Heal(42), Nictus-Heal(42)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A), Zephyr-Travel(46), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(46), Zephyr-ResKB(46)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(45), Zephyr-ResKB(45)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Theft-+End%(A), Nictus-%Dam(17), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(31), Nictus-Acc/Heal(33), Nictus-Heal(37)
Level 18: Dark Consumption -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(19), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(19), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(33), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(33), P'Shift-EndMod(34)
Level 20: Cloak of Darkness -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(21), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(34)
Level 22: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 24: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(25), RgnTis-Regen+(25)
Level 26: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(27), P'Shift-EndMod(27)
Level 28: Soul Drain -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(29), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(34)
Level 30: Murky Cloud -- Aegis-ResDam(A)
Level 32: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 35: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-Psi/Status(36), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(36), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(45)
Level 38: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- Empty(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 47: Midnight Grasp -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(48), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(48), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), KntkC'bat-Knock%(50)
Level 49: Cloak of Fear -- Cloud-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Cloud-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(50), Cloud-Acc/ToHitDeb(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit



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Mama Stefie, Candie Kisses, Starrmie, Starrie, StarrShyne, Starrlah, Kyandie
@Kiri-chan is my hubby!

 

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Hey Stef, I do see your slotting all over the place for defense. Sounds good in theory but most likely you'll want to focus on a specific type of defense. The issue is that resistance based toons start with pretty much no defense and you're having to build up. So you'll want to soft cap the one you're most worried about. For a scrapper that'd be melee most of the time. You're charging head long into the fray. Another alternative is smashing lethal which is the most common damage types in the game and will also help on ranged and aoes that are also smashing and lethal.


I'll always be a "Champion" at heart. My server away from home.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

"With great moustache comes great responsibility" - Zee Captain

 

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Originally Posted by Stefanie View Post
You have no idea how awesome that build is! Thank you so much for taking the time to do it for me... I was thinking ALL DAY about what you said about katana/dark, and have been torn between fire, katana, db, or dark! I know I want a dark toon .. it's just SO hard for me to fathom how it'll play end-game being that I'm so used to /sr! grr.. anyway, I have been playing around with builds all day... probably going to make some toons and see what I like.. I figured I'd end up going with fire though since it's what I always seem to come back to. 8-)
I can actually help with katana/dark too. I have a softcapped Broadsword/Dark Armor, and the two sets are so close as to be interchangeable.....let me see if I can dig up the thread....


Ah!...here it is:

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=189427

There are some downsides to it, but they are discussed in the thread. I did it relatively cheaply too. Also, the reason it failed against Cimeroroans....no defense debuff resistance.

It's a level 50 respec build, not a leveling build. And you'll want to take Gambler's Cut and give it the slotting that Hack has in my build.


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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wow... that build is pure win. I just changed it up a lil for katana.. I made a dark/dark but idk, after lookin' at those numbers...I might just haveta remake into kat/dark. w00t! ty dahlin. <3 p.s. I got my aoe to 44.5.


Mama Stefie, Candie Kisses, Starrmie, Starrie, StarrShyne, Starrlah, Kyandie
@Kiri-chan is my hubby!

 

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....and behold, Starr. is born. :P <3



2 hours later and level 5.... yeah, this one's a keeper... >.> :P


Mama Stefie, Candie Kisses, Starrmie, Starrie, StarrShyne, Starrlah, Kyandie
@Kiri-chan is my hubby!

 

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Originally Posted by Stefanie View Post
wow... that build is pure win. I just changed it up a lil for katana.. I made a dark/dark but idk, after lookin' at those numbers...I might just haveta remake into kat/dark. w00t! ty dahlin. <3 p.s. I got my aoe to 44.5.

Look at the second build I posted in that thread. I got all 3 softcapped on that one


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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Hey..you want to take a look at some of the changes I made to the build you gave me? I'll post 'em both so it'll be easy to open and compare. Thanks! <3

Mine:

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Mama Stefie, Candie Kisses, Starrmie, Starrie, StarrShyne, Starrlah, Kyandie
@Kiri-chan is my hubby!

 

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Sure, I'll take a look when I get home from work today.


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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Hey, found this thread and was wondering what build you ended up going with Stefanie. I've an so'd Fire/Dark and I've been meaning to drop a ton of coin on it.