MASSIVE problem with Ouroboros 5th Column mish.

The first mission of the Ouroboros mission arc, the one where you must retrieve the computer data, there is a huge problem with the 5th column's powers.

Primarily, that many of them auto hit regardless of defense.

I play a very defensive based Robotics/FF MM. At first, I was extremely surprised when my pets started dying for some reason, very rapidly. Normally they have around a 60% defense, the enemies were white. Also, I started noting that AoEs would hit me with alarming regularity, killing me multiple times.

After a while, I inspected my combat and pet combat history, and realized that many of the enemies attacks auto hit, and didn't have to roll at all. (thus negating Defense entirely).

Then, to test this further, I activated my Personal Force Field (101.9 defense on my guy then), and ran into a group of enemies. I died near instantly. I checked my combat log again, and saw that may of their attacks simply hit me, with no roll to hit whatsoever.

This is a HUGE flaw for anyone who depends on Def to survive. FFers, Ice tankers, Stone tankers, etc.

If the devs could jump on that ASAP I would very much appreciate it. Most of my characters use defense as their primary dmg mitigation, and it's just ridiculous to have one's def completely ignored.

Note: I believe that the reason this glitch exists, is because they are using 5th column units, which are very old, and probably have not been updated since many of the mechanic changes that made everything require a to-hit roll, and thus their powers are still flagged for "Auto Hit".

The level is 34. The attacks are, if I'm not mistaken, their AoEs. Their shotguns, grenades, and missiles seem to be the ones that auto hit. The reason it's so noticable to me, is I have the number of guys turned up a bit.

The chat doesn't say auto-hit, but it does not actually show the roll to hit at all.

Also, when I get brought from full life to dead while at 101.9% defense (Personal Force Field) by 7 whites, something is very wrong.

I would encourage people who want to test it to turn the number of enemies up to 2X-4X. Turn on Personal Force Field, and agro a large group.

Like I said, really bad.

Try to monitor your stats, especially defense. If you are getting debuffed it might lead to a cascading defense failure (followed by the classic faceplant).

Also aren't some patch powers auto hit? The solution to those would be to move your pets off the patch.

I tested it on my Fortunata, that has softcapped melee defense without Mind Link and softcapped ranged and AoE defenses with Mind Link. Mission was set for x4. I didn't see any defense debuffs, and I wasn't hit more than I would have expected to be hit with softcap.

BTW, 5th are in Kahn TF and Barracuda SF. If there were any problem with them, we would see tons of posts about it by now.

According to City of Data, the only two 5th powers that are auto-hit-foe are Nosferatu's Oppressive Gloom and Chill of the Night.

A quick run through the Flashback of Ouroboros Initiation showed no problems with the Fifth Column to-hit rolls from Meks, Wolves, Vampyrii or regular troops. I was a Lvl 50 BS/regen scrapper. A short excerpt from the 'Hit Rolls' channel:

Vampyr Parasite MISSES! Gloom power had a 36.17% chance to hit, but rolled a 94.31.
Raserei Ubermenschen Fist MISSES! Thunder Kick power had a 41.17% chance to hit, but rolled a 94.89.
Raserei Ubermenschen Rifle MISSES! Brawl power had a 37.42% chance to hit, but rolled a 84.16.
Raserei Ubermenschen Force MISSES! Chain Gun power had a 44.16% chance to hit, but rolled a 63.99.
Mk I Wolfpack robot HITS you! Pummel power had a 43.06% chance to hit and rolled a 31.33.
Raserei Ubermenschen Fist HITS you! Crippling Axe Kick power had a 75.00% chance to hit and rolled a 62.40.
Raserei Ubermenschen Fist HITS you! Crippling Axe Kick power had a 41.17% chance to hit and rolled a 24.23.
Raserei Ubermenschen Rifle HITS you! Brawl power had a 13.95% chance to hit and rolled a 12.84.
Vampyr Parasite MISSES! Pummel power had a 13.95% chance to hit, but rolled a 56.16.
Raserei Ubermenschen Rifle hits you for 67.88 points of smashing damage!
Vampyr Parasite MISSES! Shadow Punch power had a 13.95% chance to hit, but rolled a 58.53.
Raserei Ubermenschen Rifle MISSES! Brawl power had a 13.95% chance to hit, but rolled a 68.48.
Darkwolf HITS you! Hurl power had a 44.16% chance to hit and rolled a 24.70.
Raserei Ubermenschen Fist MISSES! Thunder Kick power had a 15.34% chance to hit, but rolled a 45.92.
Mk I Wolfpack robot MISSES! Pummel power had a 5.75% chance to hit, but rolled a 17.13.
Raserei Ubermenschen Rifle MISSES! Brawl power had a 5.00% chance to hit, but rolled a 15.12.
Vampyr Parasite MISSES! Pummel power had a 5.00% chance to hit, but rolled a 57.82.
Vampyr Parasite MISSES! Gloom power had a 36.17% chance to hit, but rolled a 92.97.
Raserei Ubermenschen Rifle MISSES! Brawl power had a 5.00% chance to hit, but rolled a 55.42.
Raserei Ubermenschen Fist MISSES! Thunder Kick power had a 15.34% chance to hit, but rolled a 40.54.
Raserei Ubermenschen Force MISSES! Chain Gun power had a 16.74% chance to hit, but rolled a 66.33.
Raserei Ubermenschen Rifle MISSES! Brawl power had a 13.95% chance to hit, but rolled a 52.62.
Vampyr Parasite MISSES! Shadow Punch power had a 13.95% chance to hit, but rolled a 83.50.
Darkwolf MISSES! Hurl power had a 44.16% chance to hit, but rolled a 97.44.
Raserei Ubermenschen Force MISSES! Brawl power had a 37.42% chance to hit, but rolled a 69.37.
Darkwolf MISSES! Claw Swipe power had a 37.42% chance to hit, but rolled a 91.45.
Raserei Ubermenschen Force MISSES! Brawl power had a 37.42% chance to hit, but rolled a 48.53.
Darkwolf MISSES! Claw Swipe power had a 37.42% chance to hit, but rolled a 94.74.
Raserei Ubermenschen Force MISSES! Brawl power had a 37.42% chance to hit, but rolled a 83.77.
Darkwolf MISSES! Claw Swipe power had a 13.95% chance to hit, but rolled a 54.03.
Raserei Ubermenschen Force MISSES! Brawl power had a 13.95% chance to hit, but rolled a 50.16.