Outcasts - Villain side.


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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man View Post
I definitely think the Shadow Shard needs a revamp and to be made into a combination of different things.

Basically, I think it should be converted into 5 major zones: 1 small Hero-only zone, 1 small Villain-only zone, a heroically themed co-op zone, a villainously themed co-op zone, and a small free-for-all PVP zone.

The existing TFs can be split between the Hero and good co-op zones (but for the love of god, please refine the Dr. Q TF down to between 1/3 and 1/4 its current length, not counting travel time). And of course they need to introduce an equal number of villainous TFs for the Villain and evil co-op zones (such as help Crey acquire resources, help Arachnos because its better than letting Rularuu win, etc.). The PVP zone would be smaller and more open (like a large Shadow Shard island) than the existing zones to encourage faster battles, and my best guess would be to make it a brawl over control of Kora Fruit orchards or some similar resource, perhaps introducing "King of the Hill"-style gameplay.

And if the above does happen, I just hope to god there's no serious grinding required for any badges in that PVP zone.
"Because I want it" has never been a valid argument.


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Originally Posted by Thaumator View Post
"Because I want it" has never been a valid argument.
That wasn't an argument. It was a suggestion.


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The gladiators do have a normal amount of hunting: the counts and opportunity are about the same for gladiators, in fact it is a bit easier for many villain defeat gladiator badges than for heroes.
You seem to have the mistaken belief that because you can't street hunt something in multiple zones that it means that things are harder. If you want to make things harder on yourself than it needs to be, then you only have yourself to blame. I'm not here to convince you to take the "easy" way out, however the glaring inaccuracies do need to be addressed.

* Bladegrass Defeat 300 Devouring Earth tree-creatures
Normal hunting. All over the place in Nerva & St. Martial. Not as many as CoH, but still easy enough to find.

* Coralax Blue Hybrid Defeat 100 Coralax
Better CoV vs CoH as there is at least 2 more zones to hunt them.

* Crey Power Tank Defeat 100 Crey Tanks
Even. I actually got this one several times without trying villain-side. I teamed a lot with level 40+ groups.

* Ember Legacy of Flame Defeat 100 Legacy Chain Minions
Might as well be called exclusive to CoV as you cannot hunt these in CoH.

* Fortunata Seer Defeat 100 Fortunata Seers
Edge to CoV due to how many Arachnos missions are there.

* Hordeling Lasher Defeat 100 Hordelings
CoV by a long stretch. CoH for a week a year, in a single mission that has to be under a certain level.

* Ink Man Defeat 125 Blue Ink Men
CoV by a long stretch. Street hunting in St. Martial, also in Siren's Call, as well as a LOT of missions. CoH is only in the Talos Safeguard and street hunting Siren's Call.

* Lucent Legacy of Light Defeat 100 Legacy Chain Lieutenants (Villain Only)
* Mob Specialist Defeat 100 Prisoner Bosses (Hero Only)
A wash between CoH & CoV.

* Mu Guardian Defeat 100 Mu Guardians
Slight edge to CoV due to how many Arachnos missions are there.

* Raider Engineer Destroy 100 Force Field Generators summoned by Sky Raider Engineers
A wash between CoH & CoV. There are plenty of missions on both sides, and the best spot for street hunting either side is a narrow area in one zone (Sharkhead & Striga).

* Swift Steel Defeat 300 Ancestor Spirits
A wash between CoH & CoV. St. Martial vs Talos, and numerous missions on either side.

I could go on, but if you want to suggest which gladiators are more difficult to hunt for in CoV, be my guest.

There are 20 CoV only gladiators, 19 CoH only gladiators.

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http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Kill_Skuls_Badge
Mercy Island has plenty of regular Skulls. The ones people really have a problem with is the Bone Daddies. There are at least two missions that I am aware of with them in it.
And if you'd actually clicked the link to paragonwiki that I provided (and that you quoted) you'd see that.
So you are agreeing with me that you incorrectly put the Kill Skuls badge in that list? That's nice. No, I didn't have to read that link for that information as I've seen them first hand. So your point is exactly what I said your point was: you want more zones for CoV. You might try to convince yourself that it isn't, but the core of your position is exactly that.

The problem is that it seems that you are complaining about how difficult things are based on wiki articles without exploring your options.




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So...to summarize the thread:

You can get it by flashbacking the level 15-19 arc named Master of Destruction, given by Operative Wellman. It is the third mission. You will need to up your difficulty to 8 villains, probably set the level to -1, and kill the 3 outcast bosses, resetting the mission 33 times.


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That wasn't an argument. It was a suggestion.
As was mine. Learn to read before jumping to conclusions.


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You seem to have the mistaken belief
You can stop right there. I can see that trying to discuss this with you is nothing more than a waste of my time.

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I could go on, but if you want to suggest which gladiators are more difficult to hunt for in CoV, be my guest.
I already did... yet you continue to fail in acknowledging the examples that I provided. The facts speak for themselves, and I'm done trying to convince you otherwise.


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I already did... yet you continue to fail in acknowledging the examples that I provided. The facts speak for themselves, and I'm done trying to convince you otherwise.
Look back at your posts, you did not mention a single gladiator badge (villain, hero). You listed six regular defeat badges (villain, hero), some which I agreed with. You might want to get your facts in order (as I've been saying all along).




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Speaking for myself, it was my experience that Mu Guardians were much harder to get villain side. I had to farm the square in Cap au diable. They just didn't occur naturally often enough in any missions. Unless you pick scirrocco as your patron.

Hero side, I ran a lot of STFs on my emp, and got that badge without any effort.
That's anecdotal of course, things have changed since then, such as the difficulty settings.


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Speaking for myself, it was my experience that Mu Guardians were much harder to get villain side. I had to farm the square in Cap au diable. They just didn't occur naturally often enough in any missions. Unless you pick scirrocco as your patron.
I'm still picking them off bit by bit in Grandville. They appear on the towers along the wall with decent frequency (2-4 per lap around the wall), but it could certainly be better. At the very least, I find them there more often than I do in Cap.

On the other hand, when hunting them with my Hero, I just got a few people together in Recluse's Victory when the zone was empty, grabbed all three heavies, parked about a hundred yards away from the Villain base and had a Blaster pull groups of several Mu Guardians at once. It went very quickly. (Of course, other than that, you're restricted to finding them in radio missions, PVP zone missions and the Statesman TF.)


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As was mine. Learn to read before jumping to conclusions.
Don't worry about me reading your posts anymore, you're now on my ignore list.


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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man View Post
I'm still picking them off bit by bit in Grandville. They appear on the towers along the wall with decent frequency (2-4 per lap around the wall), but it could certainly be better. At the very least, I find them there more often than I do in Cap.

On the other hand, when hunting them with my Hero, I just got a few people together in Recluse's Victory when the zone was empty, grabbed all three heavies, parked about a hundred yards away from the Villain base and had a Blaster pull groups of several Mu Guardians at once. It went very quickly. (Of course, other than that, you're restricted to finding them in radio missions, PVP zone missions and the Statesman TF.)
They can also be found in The Bulge & Pavia - RWZ (as well as Paragon Protectors & Toxic Tarantulas), but you might have to do a lot of travelling around in circles


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