Questioning the System...and looking for a real SG..


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Ok,iv been gone a few months due to life,but now im back,and im surprised at many things in this game.

I play the Freedom server,which has been my native server since the release of CoX,and theres barly anyone anywhere.....except inside the AE buildings and under the Atlas statue.Its so crowded mainly in those 2 places,that I cant even move,i start to lose map server just going by these places,thats how packed they are.

There where a couple times where i lost map server running by the AE building in Atlas,and tried over 10 times to loggin that character before giving up and trying to loggin later,when i assumed less people would be on.The same happened right after i made a new character the day before,i couldnt loggin because the costume contest that was going on knocked me out of the game before i even logged in.

I was thinking that with this many people clogging Atlas,that surely there would be people wanting to team "Outside" Atlas....right?.....WRONG!

I personally play 2-3 hours a day to relax from my day,and i half way exspect to be able to team with a group of people that wanna make a team to do missions,any PUG would do,because normally i play the role of any AT i jump on admirably.(I hate deaths,so i use the ATS strengths,and allow someone else,like the Tanker,or Ect,to do there jobs)

The problem is,i can go that 2-3 hours,and not find a team to join,half the time i cant find anyone wanting to team unless its AE or a Farm,and i am not interested in a Farm at all.

So i thought id be smart,and snoop around for a SG that doesnt farm,i spammed the request for a none AE or Farming SG in Atlas for about 30 minutes,because i figured,maybe a SG would wanna have people that acctaully look for a team within,around each other,but,after 30 minutes,i was directed to a player who was the head of a SG i was told is like the one im looking for.

I messaged this person,and indeed,that person was on,and there was no answer....so i waited about 10 minutes,and said "Hello?You there?",and still,no response,so,i waited another 10 minutes,and sent the message again,and this time,i got a answer."Yeh,im messing with Mids,whatsup?"

At this point,i was like "Ok",i have his attention now,and i asked him if his SG gathers to actively to team like someone else told me when they suggjested i message him.

This guy told me no,that he Farms,and i just "Assumed",he ment that he has like a Farming Toon for Influence purposes,so thats what i said i understood,he stops me and tells me that he farms toons from lvl 1-50,and everyone else in his SG does,and more then half of his members dont leave Atlas till they hit level 50 on any givin toon,so they dont team much outside Atlas.

Im not going to say who the leader was,or the SG im describing over the Forums,it would be in bad form,but,all i can say is that im surprised.....

I could sit here and toss out some ideas for what they could do with AE,and make the game playable again,to where people dont get lazy,and fat without leaving Atlas.Its almost like this video game has its own addiction on virtual reality...which would be AE.

I acctually like the idea of AE...but i dont agree that it should be worth Exp.....If you removed that asspect of AE,leave the tickets,the influence,and everything else BUT the Exp...players would be forced to ...gee...i dunno... Leave Atlas and acctually have to travel for there levels?Maybe have to team if they cant do it all them selves?Hmmmmm....i like that,however,thats not likly to happen,so....i wanna know if there is a SG in Freedom?Or am i going to have to spend extra time making one for those who wanna be able to find a team when they want to?


 

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When I started reading this post I had to go check the date it was written because it sounded like it was a few months old before the AE changes. I really don't think there's a lot of people PLing using only AE missions anymore. It exists, but it always will, since that's what some people want to do. I know through the teen levels if you go to steel canyon there's usually frequent broadcasts for teams looking for more. The same is true of Talos Island for the 20s. You might have to exemplar/sk up and down a bit, but due to recent changes you still get exp while exemplared, which helps make team forming easier.

The best way to find pick-up groups are global channels. There's a sticky post on most server forums with the common global channels listed. Granted the team forming on those tend to be task forces instead of mission teams, but they're still a good place to make contacts and get started.


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Originally Posted by Shred_Monkey View Post
When I started reading this post I had to go check the date it was written because it sounded like it was a few months old before the AE changes. I really don't think there's a lot of people PLing using only AE missions anymore. It exists, but it always will, since that's what some people want to do. I know through the teen levels if you go to steel canyon there's usually frequent broadcasts for teams looking for more. The same is true of Talos Island for the 20s. You might have to exemplar/sk up and down a bit, but due to recent changes you still get exp while exemplared, which helps make team forming easier.

The best way to find pick-up groups are global channels. There's a sticky post on most server forums with the common global channels listed. Granted the team forming on those tend to be task forces instead of mission teams, but they're still a good place to make contacts and get started.


lol i did the same thing, thought it was from the meow days.

I always see stuff forming on freedom tf's and rf2009 and those are only 2 of the many global channels freedom has. Try joining a few of the global channels and maybe find yourself an active SG. There are definatly TF's and teams going on your just not seeing them i guess.



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Originally Posted by Fire_Minded View Post
Ok,iv been gone a few months due to life,but now im back,and im surprised at many things in this game.

I play the Freedom server,which has been my native server since the release of CoX,and theres barly anyone anywhere.....except inside the AE buildings and under the Atlas statue.Its so crowded mainly in those 2 places,that I cant even move,i start to lose map server just going by these places,thats how packed they are.

There where a couple times where i lost map server running by the AE building in Atlas,and tried over 10 times to loggin that character before giving up and trying to loggin later,when i assumed less people would be on.The same happened right after i made a new character the day before,i couldnt loggin because the costume contest that was going on knocked me out of the game before i even logged in.

I was thinking that with this many people clogging Atlas,that surely there would be people wanting to team "Outside" Atlas....right?.....WRONG!

I personally play 2-3 hours a day to relax from my day,and i half way exspect to be able to team with a group of people that wanna make a team to do missions,any PUG would do,because normally i play the role of any AT i jump on admirably.(I hate deaths,so i use the ATS strengths,and allow someone else,like the Tanker,or Ect,to do there jobs)

The problem is,i can go that 2-3 hours,and not find a team to join,half the time i cant find anyone wanting to team unless its AE or a Farm,and i am not interested in a Farm at all.

So i thought id be smart,and snoop around for a SG that doesnt farm,i spammed the request for a none AE or Farming SG in Atlas for about 30 minutes,because i figured,maybe a SG would wanna have people that acctaully look for a team within,around each other,but,after 30 minutes,i was directed to a player who was the head of a SG i was told is like the one im looking for.

I messaged this person,and indeed,that person was on,and there was no answer....so i waited about 10 minutes,and said "Hello?You there?",and still,no response,so,i waited another 10 minutes,and sent the message again,and this time,i got a answer."Yeh,im messing with Mids,whatsup?"

At this point,i was like "Ok",i have his attention now,and i asked him if his SG gathers to actively to team like someone else told me when they suggjested i message him.

This guy told me no,that he Farms,and i just "Assumed",he ment that he has like a Farming Toon for Influence purposes,so thats what i said i understood,he stops me and tells me that he farms toons from lvl 1-50,and everyone else in his SG does,and more then half of his members dont leave Atlas till they hit level 50 on any givin toon,so they dont team much outside Atlas.

Im not going to say who the leader was,or the SG im describing over the Forums,it would be in bad form,but,all i can say is that im surprised.....

I could sit here and toss out some ideas for what they could do with AE,and make the game playable again,to where people dont get lazy,and fat without leaving Atlas.Its almost like this video game has its own addiction on virtual reality...which would be AE.

I acctually like the idea of AE...but i dont agree that it should be worth Exp.....If you removed that asspect of AE,leave the tickets,the influence,and everything else BUT the Exp...players would be forced to ...gee...i dunno... Leave Atlas and acctually have to travel for there levels?Maybe have to team if they cant do it all them selves?Hmmmmm....i like that,however,thats not likly to happen,so....i wanna know if there is a SG in Freedom?Or am i going to have to spend extra time making one for those who wanna be able to find a team when they want to?


That is, bar none, the longest, most circuitous "LF SG" post I've ever seen.



And yeah, it sounds like it was written back in July.

By the guy on the left here.



OP: Can you sum up your post?


 

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Guess im the only one who notices the teaming issues,or lack there of in Freedom...odds are,you guys that just posted are in a SG,and dont have teaming issues.

Side note...by odd quincidence.....i look alot like "The guy on the left."


 

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Originally Posted by Fire_Minded View Post
Guess im the only one who notices the teaming issues,or lack there of in Freedom...odds are,you guys that just posted are in a SG,and dont have teaming issues.

Side note...by odd quincidence.....i look alot like "The guy on the left."
Boo-yah. Can I call it or WHAT?

OP: I'm in a SG of one right now. Everyone else is off playing Aion or MW2. However, I'm active in keeping a network of friends/contacts/globals handy and available, so within one minute of deciding "I think I'll play", I can find a team.

There's more to it, but honestly, your first post kinda makes the eyes bleed... I'd suggest looking at the global channel list sticky on the Freedom board and getting familiar with those channels for the various tasks. We're an active bunch here. If you're not finding missions/teams, you're doing something wrong.


 

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Originally Posted by Turgenev View Post
However, I'm active in keeping a network of friends/contacts/globals handy and available, so within one minute of deciding "I think I'll play", I can find a team.

There's more to it, but honestly, your first post kinda makes the eyes bleed... I'd suggest looking at the global channel list sticky on the Freedom board and getting familiar with those channels for the various tasks. We're an active bunch here. If you're not finding missions/teams, you're doing something wrong.
^This

I highly recommend rf2009. It's one of the most active channels and a great place for both general goofing off and finding TFs/Raids.

=. .=


 

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Originally Posted by Fire_Minded View Post
Guess im the only one who notices the teaming issues,or lack there of in Freedom...odds are,you guys that just posted are in a SG,and dont have teaming issues.

Side note...by odd quincidence.....i look alot like "The guy on the left."
Actually I just recently moved to here from Justice. I knew a few people like smurphy and Turg but didn't team with them much. There are many pugs teams and TF's to be had if your looking. Join some of the global channels and you will see this. If you want help send me a tell in game tonight @tritonfree



"Play Nice and BEHAVE! I don't want to hear about any more of your shenanigans brought up in our meetings at Paragon"
-Ghost Falcon @Tritonfree @Philly's 2nd Convenient CIGAL BoBC/INOANN Arts&Crafts Sporks
Average Joes FAP THE MENTOR PROJECT Justice Events

 

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Originally Posted by Fire_Minded View Post
Guess im the only one who notices the teaming issues,or lack there of in Freedom...odds are,you guys that just posted are in a SG,and dont have teaming issues.
If you think there are teaming issues on Freedom, I don't even want to imagine what you'd say about the teaming situation on every other server. Freedom is amazingly active comparatively.

If you're having problems finding a team, my best advice is to form one yourself. It's not hard, especially since the SSK system hit and you can team with anyone of any level without any real problems: just open the search window and start sending tells ("level $level mish team forming, interested?"). I would still avoid inviting people substantially outside of your level range just because a level 4 in a level 50 mission isn't really useful and a level 50 in a level 4 mission is generally pissed because he doesn't have all of his powers, but you can generally form a team with little to no effort and a modicum of patience. Anyone that knows me can tell you that I'm always putting together pugs of all varieties at nearly all hours of the day and night.


 

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Originally Posted by Fire_Minded View Post
Guess im the only one who notices the teaming issues,or lack there of in Freedom...odds are,you guys that just posted are in a SG,and dont have teaming issues.

Side note...by odd quincidence.....i look alot like "The guy on the left."

There are no teaming issues on Freedom. I hop around to pretty much every zone, even hazard zones, and I see broadcasts everywhere except for maybe Shadow Shard zones, Eden and Crey's Folly. Believe me, it's out there. I say this as a person who is not in a supergroup with other people. I have two supergroups, but they're both mine and only have my characters.

If this were prior to Issue 16, I would agree that there is a teaming issue, but from general observation, I can safely say that the AE changes in Issue 16 has improved the QoL for PUG teaming. People are still farming, but they always will as long as the avenue is available. They will still farm AE in Atlas because it's there.

If you're having issues with just running by the building on the outside, you should have seen Atlas before the Great AE Nerf of 2009. Everybody in the zone lagged, and indeed the zone crashed frequently because there were so many people standing in the AE building power spamming.


 

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I find myself agreeing with Turg. (A robed guy just checked of a sign of the apocalypse as he walked by.) But I digress.

Many of my Freedom toons don't have SGs. Too many folks are hung up on them as if they mean anything beyond storage and teleporters. I get my Freedom teams either from dUmb channel or RF2009. The latter is public and while it is oftern a chatfest, it's a great way to form up a team. I'm sure there are other channels as well. The other bit of advice is don't wait for someone to ask you to form a team, form your own and use your channels. Spamming "forming ITF" in Atlas is not always the best method, the global channels will have a much better reach.


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im in this cool SG and VG called Nothing and its got an awesome co with this S/VG called The Forums and im in all these channels like broadcast and local.

I have no issues finding teams, I can get into a team even faster if i get off my lazy [Censored] and make one.