Ice/FF soft-capped?

All,

Here is a build I'm planning for my Ice/FF controller, Ocean Maid. She is already level 35 or so. I'm fairly happy with the build, and I did manage to soft cap Ranged & AOE Defense. I only have 28% on Melee, but on my typed defenses, I did soft cap Smashing/Lethal. I have 25% defense vs Psi, and I've got 38% or so against everything else. I don't have defense debuff resistance, sadly, but hey.

Anyway, my issue is that I *really* wish I had a few more slots on Shiver. I only have 1 slot in it currently. I wish I could get a second or 3rd slots. It's not a big deal, but I was wondering if anyone saw anywhere else I could have snagged some AOE/Ranged Defense in less slots, so that I'd have an extra slot or two for Shiver. I don't want to drop my epic attacks, though.

If there isn't a way, no biggie. I just figured I'd see if an extra eyes on the build might reveal something.

Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

Lewis

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Ocean Maid: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice -- Lock-Acc/Hold(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg(3), Lock-Rchg/Hold(3), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(11), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(15), Lock-%Hold(15)
Level 1: Personal Force Field -- Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 2: Frostbite -- TotHntr-Acc/Rchg(A), TotHntr-EndRdx/Immob(5), TotHntr-Acc/EndRdx(5), TotHntr-Immob/Acc(40), TotHntr-Acc/Immob/Rchg(40), TotHntr-Dam%(40)
Level 4: Deflection Shield -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(17), DefBuff-I(17)
Level 6: Arctic Air -- Bfdlng-EndRdx/Conf(A), Pplx-EndRdx/Conf(7), Mlais-EndRdx/Conf(7), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(9), CoPers-Conf%(9), Slow-I(11)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 10: Insulation Shield -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(19), DefBuff-I(19)
Level 12: Ice Slick -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(43), Zephyr-ResKB(46)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), EndMod-I(21)
Level 22: Dispersion Bubble -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(23), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(23), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(25)
Level 24: Shiver -- TmpRdns-Acc/Slow(A)
Level 26: Glacier -- Lock-Acc/Hold(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg(27), Lock-Rchg/Hold(27), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(29), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(29), Lock-%Hold(34)
Level 28: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(31), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 32: Jack Frost -- BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(A), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx(33), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), BldM'dt-Acc(34), BldM'dt-Dmg(37)
Level 35: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(36), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(36), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(36), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Aegis-ResDam(37)
Level 38: Weave -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(39), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(39)
Level 41: Ice Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Frost Breath -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(A), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(45), Det'tn-Dmg/Rng(45), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx(46)
Level 47: Frozen Armor -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(48), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Ice Storm -- AirB'st-Dmg/Rchg(A), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(50), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Containment

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Ocean Maid: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice -- Lock-Acc/Hold(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg(3), Lock-Rchg/Hold(3), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(11), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(15), Lock-%Hold(15)
Level 1: Personal Force Field -- Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 2: Frostbite -- TotHntr-Acc/Rchg(A), TotHntr-EndRdx/Immob(5), TotHntr-Acc/EndRdx(5), TotHntr-Acc/Immob/Rchg(17), TotHntr-Dam%(19), TotHntr-Immob/Acc(40)
Level 4: Deflection Shield -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(17)
Level 6: Arctic Air -- Bfdlng-EndRdx/Conf(A), Pplx-EndRdx/Conf(7), Mlais-EndRdx/Conf(7), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(9), CoPers-Conf%(9), Slow-I(11)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 10: Insulation Shield -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(19)
Level 12: Ice Slick -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(43), Zephyr-ResKB(46)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), EndMod-I(21)
Level 22: Dispersion Bubble -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(23), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(23), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(25)
Level 24: Shiver -- TmpRdns-Acc/Slow(A), Empty(40), Empty(40)
Level 26: Glacier -- Lock-Acc/Hold(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg(27), Lock-Rchg/Hold(27), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(29), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(29), Lock-%Hold(34)
Level 28: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(31), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 32: Jack Frost -- BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(A), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx(33), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), BldM'dt-Acc(34), BldM'dt-Dmg(37)
Level 35: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(36), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(36), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(36), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Aegis-ResDam(37)
Level 38: Weave -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(39), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(39)
Level 41: Ice Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Frost Breath -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(A), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(45), Det'tn-Dmg/Rng(45), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx(46)
Level 47: Frozen Armor -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(48), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Ice Storm -- AirB'st-Dmg/Rchg(A), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(50), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Containment

Thanks! I'm not sure I want to drop slots off my 2 ally buffs, but I do admit, I hadn't thought of it. I might be willing to roll with 2 level 50 Defense IOs. Not a bad idea.

Thanks!

Lewis

That build is pretty slick. I may have to copy it some time.

One thing I noticed is you could drop one of the Recharges in Ice Slick. It's only buying you about 2 seconds of faster recharge.


I also tried playing around with a build, toying some with the Mind APP. I was able to come up with something a little weird that replaced Punch/Tough/Weave with Combat Jumping/Super Jump/Repulsion Bomb. AoE and Ranged are soft capped, but melee and slashing no longer are; however they have higher resistance than before. You also trade resistance to Cold for resistance to Mental. The build also uses slightly less endurance and recovers slightly more. Not sure how I feel about the build overall, but here you go if you want to play with it:


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Ocean Maid Redux: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice -- Lock-Acc/Hold:50(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg:50(3), Lock-Rchg/Hold:50(3), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:50(11), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:50(15), Lock-%Hold:50(15)
Level 1: Personal Force Field -- RechRdx-I:30(A)
Level 2: Frostbite -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(5), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg:50(5), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(13), Acc-I:50(31), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rng:50(40)
Level 4: Deflection Shield -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx:50(A), RedFtn-Def:50(17), DefBuff-I:50(17)
Level 6: Arctic Air -- C'phny-Dam%:30(A), C'phny-EndRdx/Conf:30(7), Mlais-EndRdx/Conf:50(7), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx:50(9), CoPers-Conf%:50(9), Mlais-Dam%:50(31)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(11), RechRdx-I:50(25)
Level 10: Insulation Shield -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx:50(A), RedFtn-Def:50(19), DefBuff-I:50(19)
Level 12: Ice Slick -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(43), Zephyr-ResKB:50(46)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:50(21), EndMod-I:50(21)
Level 22: Dispersion Bubble -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx:40(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx:40(23), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx:50(23), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(25)
Level 24: Shiver -- TmpRdns-Acc/Slow:50(A), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx:50(40), TmpRdns-Rng/Slow:50(40)
Level 26: Glacier -- Lock-Acc/Hold:50(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg:50(27), Lock-Rchg/Hold:50(27), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:50(29), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:50(29), Lock-%Hold:50(34)
Level 28: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(34), Zephyr-ResKB:50(36)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx:40(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx:50(31), EndRdx-I:50(39), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(39)
Level 32: Jack Frost -- BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg:50(A), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx:50(33), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), BldM'dt-Acc:50(34), BldM'dt-Dmg:50(37)
Level 35: Repulsion Bomb -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), Det'tn-Dmg/Rng:50(37), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg:50(37), RechRdx-I:50(39)
Level 38: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I:40(A)
Level 41: Mental Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx:50(42), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg:50(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(43), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(43)
Level 44: World of Confusion -- Mlais-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Mlais-EndRdx/Conf:50(45), Mlais-Acc/EndRdx:50(45), Mlais-Conf/Rng:50(45), Mlais-Dam%:50(46), Mlais-Acc/Conf/Rchg:50(46)
Level 47: Mind Over Body -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(A), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg:50(48), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(48), Aegis-ResDam:50(48), Aegis-Psi/Status:50(50), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(50)
Level 49: Psionic Tornado -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg:50(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 1: Containment

MK,

The reason I'm sticking with Ice is for concept/theme match, and because I want 2 AOEs.

OR,

I'll think about Ice Slick, but that's one of my main controls, so I'm reluctant. As for your counter build, well, I want the smashing/lethal maxed since I'll be in melee 100% of the time, using AA and Frostbite. I'd like the melee hits to miss as much as possible.

Thanks to everyone for the replies!

Lewis