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It depends on what you are doing. If you aren't doing challenges that specifically forbid inspirations it should be fine. Now that you can combine 3 unneeded enhancements into heals you should be able to keep up your greens for the rare occasions when you get hit. If you are pushing the envelope (regularly grinding through 54 Rikti, etc.) then your green usage will be higher than the drop rate and then Aid Self is nice.|
Originally Posted by Vitality
I'm trying to decide between MA/WP and MA/SR.
I've have played both WP and SR to level 50 with Dark Melee. I know how great soft-cap /SR can be...but I'm worried about MA/SR because the lack of a heal. Are there any MA/SR, without Aid Self, that can comment on this? |
And if you are going to PvP you'll want Aid Self.
The hardest choice for SR: Travel Power, Tough/Weave, Hasten, Aid Self. Pick 3.
Moonlighter
50s include MA/SD, MA/SR, DP/Elec, Claw/Inv, Kat/Dark, Kat/Fire, Spine/Regen, Dark/SD
First Arc: Tequila Sunrise, #168563
I could never fit aid self for concept reasons mostly.
AV soloing/rikti challenge ect, you need aid self, pvp you need it or elude.
the other 99.9% of content you don't need aid self from my experience. I generally heal up inbetween lucky blows, and I haven't got in physical perfection yet either. On my main, ma/sr, i generally end up combining greens into reds.
I've never needed Aid Self on my MA/SR. This is the build I went with... granted I went a bit nuts with the positional defense and had gobs of influence to spend on a couple of those PvP recipes.
I threw extra slots into Swift, Quickness and Hurdle because I generally use Ninja Run as the travel power on this toon. The only reason I kept SJ was for the BoTZ set bonuses.
All in all, it's worked really well for me. On the rare occasion I do get hit, inspirations make up.
Total Defense:
Melee - 52%
Ranged - 50%
AoE - 50%
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Mini Turbo Starr: Level 50 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Martial Arts
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Storm Kick
- (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
- (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
- (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
- (5) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (5) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (7) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
- (11) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
- (13) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
- (13) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (15) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
- (15) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
- (17) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
- (17) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
- (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
- (19) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
- (19) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
- (21) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (21) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (23) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
- (23) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Run Speed IO
- (46) Run Speed IO
- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
- (25) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
- (25) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
- (27) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
- (27) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
- (29) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
- (29) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
- (31) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (31) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (31) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (33) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
- (33) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
- (33) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge
- (34) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
- (34) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (A) Accuracy IO
- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (34) Impervium Armor - Resistance
- (36) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (36) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
- (46) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (50) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
- (A) Armageddon - Damage
- (36) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
- (37) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (37) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
- (37) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
- (39) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
- (A) Run Speed IO
- (48) Run Speed IO
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (39) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Hecatomb - Damage
- (40) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
- (40) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (40) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
- (42) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
- (42) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (43) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
- (43) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
- (43) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%
- (45) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (46) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
- (45) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge
- (45) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +3% Res (All)
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
- (48) Miracle - +Recovery
- (A) Jumping IO
- (50) Jumping IO
Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 10% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 10% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 10% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 10% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 10% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 10% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 10% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 10% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 11% Defense(Smashing)
- 11% Defense(Lethal)
- 10.4% Defense(Fire)
- 10.4% Defense(Cold)
- 10.7% Defense(Energy)
- 10.7% Defense(Negative)
- 7.88% Defense(Psionic)
- 16% Defense(Melee)
- 15.4% Defense(Ranged)
- 14.8% Defense(AoE)
- 4.05% Max End
- 48% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 6% Enhancement(Heal)
- 57.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 10% FlySpeed
- 175.7 HP (13.1%) HitPoints
- 10% JumpHeight
- 10% JumpSpeed
- Knockback (Mag -4)
- Knockup (Mag -4)
- MezResist(Held) 8.8%
- MezResist(Immobilize) 5.5%
- 23.5% (0.39 End/sec) Recovery
- 52% (2.91 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 3% Resistance(Smashing)
- 3% Resistance(Lethal)
- 10.5% Resistance(Fire)
- 8.04% Resistance(Cold)
- 3% Resistance(Energy)
- 3% Resistance(Negative)
- 13% Resistance(Toxic)
- 6% Resistance(Psionic)
- 17.5% RunSpeed
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Shard Warrior - 50 MA/Regen/BM Scrapper
Founding Member and Leader : Shadow-Force
Co-Leader: Council of Heroes
"Whatever evils come this way... we will be there to stop them."
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My SR doesn't use aid self and I've soloed all the Phalanx TFs, pylons and the RWZ challenge are part of my meditation routine, and PvP I seem to be doing just fine. (Odd, that last one. Everyone tells me SR is still gimp in PvP.)| AV soloing/rikti challenge ect, you need aid self, pvp you need it or elude. |
Only reason I failed to solo the ITF was due to the autohit fluffy in the last mission. (And I was told how to deal with that.)
With MA's mitigation, I fail to see why MA/SR would be much different.
Oh yea... I don't have elude either.
Be well, people of CoH.
So for AV soloing, RWZ challenge etc., you need aid self or you need to be Bill Z Bubba. 
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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My 50 MA/SR gets by just fine without a heal of any sort other than the rare use of a green inspiration. I don't regularly take on 54 Rikti bosses, it's true, but I do ITFs and Mothership Raids and scary bad bosses in AE. (Note: AE baddies with Build Up can be a problem, specifically because Build Up is calculated differently than normal in the to-hit formula. It's not a problem with SR, but all defense builds; it's not a problem with difficult bosses per se or high level content in general -- it's JUST a Build Up problem. My solution is to do knockback to them the moment I hear the BU sound effect and break contact for 10 seconds, then return and hit my OWN version (Focus Chi).
Of course, taking something other than Aid Self presupposes you'll be taking something useful (in your other thread you talk about taking Eagle's Claw for stun only...don't. Take Cobra if you want a stun; or slot EC for damage and enjoy it, but the duration of EC's stun is not going to win your heart.) personally I take EC and often finish off a foe before the other Scrappers (it's all in the timing. 
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I think solo'n AVs with claws/ or MA/ and /SR would be different due to claws having so much kb/kd, not aid self's presense. For RWZ even more so. Having kb in one attack is a lot different than a ranged attack and a ranged aoe attack..............
I'm trying to decide between MA/WP and MA/SR.
I've have played both WP and SR to level 50 with Dark Melee.
I know how great soft-cap /SR can be...but I'm worried about MA/SR because the lack of a heal.
Are there any MA/SR, without Aid Self, that can comment on this?