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Ok so Ive got a little bit of money burnin a whole in my pocket and can't decide what to buy. Right now Ive got a Phenom 9950, a gtx 260 (no extra shaders), 4GB of RAM in Vista32, and my resolution is at 1920x1200. Would upgrading to the Phenom II 965 or GTX 275 give me a bigger boost in performance?

This isn't just for CoX but for gaming in general. Also, please no suggestions for switching to intel I have no plans to buy another mobo atm.


 

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First of all, I would "upgrade" your OS to a 64bit version so that you utilize all of your 4GB of RAM.

The next question is how much of a budget are you talking about?

The Phenom2 X4 965 is an AM3 CPU, while your Phenom 9950 is an AM2+.
Will you be needing to upgrade your mobo if you went this route?

Depending on your budget needs, upgrading your GPU may be the easiest and most cost effective way to increase your performance at this time.
If you were considering a GTX 275, I'm going to assume you have a budget of at least $250-$300, given the current prices of said card, which is unfortunately not enough to cover one of the newer Radeon 5800 class cards, assuming you could actually find one in stock.


 

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Yeah Ive got the ASUS m4n82 Deluxe which is an am2+ socket but can support the AM3 socket. I just updated its BIOS to latest version which supports the 965. My budget is right around 250-300 so is the suggestion still the gtx 275 even though I wont need a new motherboard?


 

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Ok so Ive got a little bit of money burnin a whole in my pocket and can't decide what to buy. Right now Ive got a Phenom 9950, a gtx 260 (no extra shaders), 4GB of RAM in Vista32, and my resolution is at 1920x1200. Would upgrading to the Phenom II 965 or GTX 275 give me a bigger boost in performance?

This isn't just for CoX but for gaming in general. Also, please no suggestions for switching to intel I have no plans to buy another mobo atm.
As has been suggested, move to a 64-bit OS to fully utilize your full memory complement.

Other than that, I'd wait to upgrade and just save up some cash (get a fire extinquisher for the burning). The only caveat is if some insanely great deal happens by on Black Friday (the day after Thanksgiving in the US, this coming Friday the 25th) or Boxing Day (the day after X-Mas).



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Windows 7, and a Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT.
This thing devours Max settings graphics like nobodies business


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Windows 7, and a Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT.
This thing devours Max settings graphics like nobodies business
Right that would be a graphics card downgrade....

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As has been suggested, move to a 64-bit OS to fully utilize your full memory complement.

Other than that, I'd wait to upgrade and just save up some cash (get a fire extinquisher for the burning). The only caveat is if some insanely great deal happens by on Black Friday (the day after Thanksgiving in the US, this coming Friday the 25th) or Boxing Day (the day after X-Mas).
How about getting the phenom II 965 for $165?

I do hesitate to upgrade to 64bit because of that whole annoyance with unsigned drivers, have they changed that lately?


 

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Right that would be a graphics card downgrade....



How about getting the phenom II 965 for $165?

I do hesitate to upgrade to 64bit because of that whole annoyance with unsigned drivers, have they changed that lately?
Currently running Win7 64-bit. Haven't really had any issues with drivers.

As to the CPU upgrade. It might give you a SMALL boost in some games that are CPU-limited. But overall, it's probably not going to add all that much. Your current 9950 is already pretty ballsy.



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I would wait until next spring before you go for any upgrades. We'll know more about the specific hardware requirements for Going Rogue, there will be new stuff out, and today's top-end hardware will have come down in price.


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I would wait until next spring before you go for any upgrades. We'll know more about the specific hardware requirements for Going Rogue,
This is true, and the only valid reason to wait.

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there will be new stuff out,
This is ALWAYS the situation. Therefore, this is NOT a reason to wait.

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and today's top-end hardware will have come down in price.
Again, this is ALWAYS true and NOT a reason to wait.


P.S. I will NOT be waiting. My life (and computer usage) doesn't revolve around one game so the schedule for Going Rogue doesn't determine when I buy (or build, in my case).


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there will be new stuff out, and today's top-end hardware will have come down in price.
This is ALWAYS the situation. Therefore, this is NOT a reason to wait.
Actually, it is. If he's playing stuff (not just CoX) at an acceptable resolution and quality level currently, he has ZERO reason to upgrade. And, by waiting, he can maximize his bang for the buck and system longevity by purchasing closer to the debut of Going Rogue.

Additionally, as he doesn't KNOW what the specs are for GR, he runs the risk of buying something inappropriate for his wants (being able to run Ultra mode) if he buys now.

In short, it's called "making an informed purchasing decision".

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P.S. I will NOT be waiting. My life (and computer usage) doesn't revolve around one game so the schedule for Going Rogue doesn't determine when I buy (or build, in my case).
That's great and all. It's nice to be able to upgrade whenever the whim takes you. However, some people here are on budgets. Therefore they set certain milestones for themselves to justify purchases.



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P.S. I will NOT be waiting. My life (and computer usage) doesn't revolve around one game so the schedule for Going Rogue doesn't determine when I buy (or build, in my case).
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That's great and all. It's nice to be able to upgrade whenever the whim takes you. However, some people here are on budgets. Therefore they set certain milestones for themselves to justify purchases.
Gee, thanks for putting words in my mouth. Did I say anything about upgrading whenever the whim takes me? No. I said my upgrading isn't scheduled around Going Rogue. What it *IS* scheduled around is the age and current performance of my computer.


The rest of your argument about waiting because computers will be more powerful in a few months is still absurd. That's not "making an informed purchasing decision". It's called being unrealistic about computer technology. It will ALWAYS be more powerful in a few months.

Sure, there ARE valid reasons to wait. As you say, if Going Rogue *IS* his main interest, then wait until we know more. If he doesn't have the money available, then wait and save. But "computers will be more powerful"??? Not a reason.


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Did I say anything about upgrading whenever the whim takes me? No. I said my upgrading isn't scheduled around Going Rogue. What it *IS* scheduled around is the age and current performance of my computer.
In other words, when the system isn't fast enough for your wants anymore, you upgrade. That's, essentially, whim.

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The rest of your argument about waiting because computers will be more powerful in a few months is still absurd. That's not "making an informed purchasing decision". It's called being unrealistic about computer technology. It will ALWAYS be more powerful in a few months.
Again, this person, while not COMPLETELY locked to a specific milestone, still has one in mind (Going Rogue). As I said in my previous posts, if his performance is acceptable NOW, he's best off waiting until specs are available for GR to make a better purchase decision than "well this is really REALLY powerful now, hopefully it won't suck in six months".

I'm not simply saying "computers will be more powerful in a few months". That's already known. What I'm saying is, if you don't have a TRULY compelling reason to buy RIGHT NOW, don't. You'll see better bang for the buck and greater system longevity by purchasing closer to the target date of your milestone.

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Sure, there ARE valid reasons to wait. As you say, if Going Rogue *IS* his main interest, then wait until we know more. If he doesn't have the money available, then wait and save. But "computers will be more powerful"??? Not a reason.
No. It's still a reason. Simply not the ONLY reason.



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