Fire/Energy Attack Chains

Hi

I have got a shelved Fire/Energy blaster sat at level 50 and I thought I would see if he was worth bringing back out and giving some love too.

My plan is to try and make him a single target monster with Fireball for the AoE, and although I want to get his S/L defences up as high as I can I know that +recharge will be my main aim.

That said, does anyone know the best single target attack chain a Fire/Energy blaster can hope for assuming an unlimited budget (No pvp IO's, but whatever purples and procs may be needed) and what recharge will be needed for that?

(Note: I have tried to work this out for myself but it seems to be an awkward one - If I can find my workings when I get home I may post up what I have)

PS: If anyone happens to have such a build handy I wouldn't mind a peek

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

If I'm not completely wrong, the best attack chain for a Fire/Energy is Blaze -> FBlast -> BSmasher -> FBlast or any iteration of that with only one FBlast. I'm not completely sure if using Energy Punch instead of BSmasher would yield better DPS.

Here's a sample build that could give you some ideas:

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Level 50 Magic Blaster
Primary Power Set: Fire Blast
Secondary Power Set: Energy Manipulation
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Cold Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Flares -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Decim-Build%(9), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 1: Power Thrust -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(15), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(27), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 2: Fire Ball -- Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(A), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(3), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Ragnrk-Knock%(5), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7)
Level 4: Build Up -- Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(A), Rec'dRet-Pcptn(37), RechRdx-I(40), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 6: Fire Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(13), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 10: Bone Smasher -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(34), Numna-Heal(46), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(50)
Level 18: Blaze -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(19), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Apoc-Dam%(37), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-End%(36)
Level 22: Aim -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(23), RechRdx-I(23), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 24: Fire Breath -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(25), Posi-Dmg/Rng(25), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), Posi-Dam%(29), Range-I(31)
Level 26: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 28: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 30: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Inferno -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Oblit-%Dam(34)
Level 35: Boost Range -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 38: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), RctvArm-ResDam(39), RctvArm-EndRdx(39)
Level 41: Flash Freeze -- FtnHyp-Sleep/Rchg(A), FtnHyp-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(46), FtnHyp-Acc/Rchg(46), FtnHyp-Sleep/EndRdx(50), FtnHyp-Plct%(50)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(45), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(45)
Level 47: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 49: Hibernate -- Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance

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That build is a good start but I am not sure if that attack chain is right, Fire Blast looks pretty low DPE.

I sorted the powers in DPE order as follows (Ignoring the AoE's - Fire Ball is actually 4th in the list otherwise):

Blaze
Energy Punch
Bone Smasher
Flares
Total Focus
Fire Blast
Blazing Bolt
Power Thrust

So I am trying to work an attack chain only using Blaze, Energy Punch, Bone Smasher and Flares.

At the moment I am looking at something like Blaze > Flares > Energy Punch > Flares > Bone Smasher > Flares > Blaze > Flares > Energy Punch > Flares. But there are gaps in that (Short animation times mean I need to use lots of powers) and I still don't even reach 200dps which I would really hope to pass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

Working on the above attack chain theory I have created the following build (In only about 5 mins so there will be plenty of room to tweak I am sure):

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
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Searing Heat: Level 50 Magic Blaster
Primary Power Set: Fire Blast
Secondary Power Set: Energy Manipulation
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Cold Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Flares -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(36), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(36), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(36), Decim-Build%:40(37), HO:Nucle(43)
Level 1: Power Thrust -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(5)
Level 2: Fire Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(37), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(37), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(39), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(39)
Level 4: Energy Punch -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(5), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg:50(7), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx:50(7), Hectmb-Dam%:50(46), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46)
Level 6: Build Up -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(9)
Level 8: Fire Ball -- Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Posi-Dam%:50(9), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(39), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg:50(40), Ragnrk-Dmg:50(40), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx:50(40)
Level 10: Bone Smasher -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(13), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(23), Hectmb-Dmg:50(48)
Level 12: Aim -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(13)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(15), RechRdx-I:50(15)
Level 16: Hover -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(17), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(17), Zephyr-Travel:50(19), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(19), Zephyr-ResKB:50(21)
Level 18: Blaze -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(25), Apoc-Acc/Rchg:50(25), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), Apoc-Dam%:50(34), GJ-Dam%:50(43)
Level 20: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(21), Zephyr-ResKB:50(23)
Level 22: Swift -- Flight-I:50(A)
Level 24: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(A)
Level 26: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(27), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:50(27), P'Shift-End%:50(34)
Level 28: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(29), Zephyr-ResKB:50(29)
Level 30: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(31)
Level 32: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(33), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg:40(33), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(33)
Level 35: Boost Range -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 38: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(42)
Level 41: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(42), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(42), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(43)
Level 44: Flash Freeze -- FtnHyp-Sleep:50(A), FtnHyp-Sleep/Rchg:50(45), FtnHyp-Acc/Sleep/Rchg:50(45), FtnHyp-Acc/Rchg:50(45), FtnHyp-Sleep/EndRdx:50(46)
Level 47: Frozen Armor -- LkGmblr-Def:40(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(48), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:30(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(50), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(50), GA-3defTpProc:50(50)
Level 49: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance

I need a few % more S/L defence (And would love to get rid of the PvP 3% Def IO) and need to shave 10 seconds from Hasten (Ideally).

This build has however made me realise the recharges I was working on previously are wrong, so I will look at my own attack chain calculations again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

In the same way as last time my attack chain (Trying to get it without gaps that is since I don't know how to work out the very best chains) is not going very well, at the moment I have:

Blaze > Bone Smasher > Flares > Energy Punch > Blaze > Flares > Fire Ball > Bone Smasher > Blaze > Flares > Energy Punch > Flares > Fire Ball > Blaze

And there is still more to go.

There must be something simpler I am missing!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

Best attack chain is Blaze > BS > EP repeat

Here's basically the same build but with soft capped S/L. Managed to drop the PvP 3% Def IO but it came at the cost of 10% global Rech.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,601
http://www.cohplanner.com/

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Searing Heat: Level 50 Magic Blaster
Primary Power Set: Fire Blast
Secondary Power Set: Energy Manipulation
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Cold Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Flares -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Decim-Build%(37), HO:Nucle(43)
Level 1: Power Thrust -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 2: Fire Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(37), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39)
Level 4: Energy Punch -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(7), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Hectmb-Dam%(46), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 6: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(45), Rec'dRet-Pcptn(45)
Level 8: Fire Ball -- Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(A), Posi-Dam%(9), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(40), Ragnrk-Dmg(40), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 10: Bone Smasher -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Hectmb-Dmg(48)
Level 12: Aim -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Hover -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(17), LkGmblr-Rchg+(17), Zephyr-Travel(19), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(19), Zephyr-ResKB(21)
Level 18: Blaze -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(25), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Apoc-Dam%(34), GJ-Dam%(43)
Level 20: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(21), Zephyr-ResKB(23)
Level 22: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 24: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 26: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(27), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(27), P'Shift-End%(34)
Level 28: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(29), Zephyr-ResKB(29)
Level 30: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 32: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(33), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(33), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 35: Boost Range -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 41: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(42), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(42), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43)
Level 44: Flash Freeze -- Empty(A)
Level 47: Frozen Armor -- LkGmblr-Def(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(48), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 49: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(46), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance

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I use Fireball, Blaze, Bonesmash, and fill it with Flares when I need to.

Course, I have like 80+ recharge from sets, so mine isn't exactly normal.

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=139004

this old thread should have some info for ya in regards to making chains

This is my current build, I have a cheese load of recharge so I can use that chain lol.

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Forgive me this (I may just be misunderstanding or mids may have the wrong numbers):

Blaze has a recharge time of 2.61 seconds in your build, meaning after casting Bone Smasher (1.5s) and energy Punch (0.83s) there is a 0.17s gap before the next Blaze? Is that taken up by Arcanatime?

Also Bone Smasher is on an even longer recharge, so is there another gap (4.16 - 1 - 0.83 = 2.33s) before the 2nd and subsequent Bone Smashers?

That looks to me like there should be a 4th power (Maybe Fire Ball or Flares or both) in that gap.

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

for referance, here are the DPA's of each (worthwhile) fire blast attack with 3dam SO's:

Flares: 103.7
Fire Blast: 97.68
Blaze: over 9000 (309.95)
Fireball: 129.3
Rain of Fire: 110.15
Fire Breath: 73.7

Blaze is, of course your most wanted attack, but do not exclude Flares or Fireball from your chains

Now for /eng:

Power Thrust: 73.02
Energy Punch: 229.95
Bone Smasher: 177.95
Total Focus: 112.46

Energy punch, then Bone smasher are your picks here.

if you want any more info (such as Rechs, etc) just say so