Planning for the future: Dual Pistol build


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Okay, this isn't a question about Dual Pistols. It's about what I'm going to pair with it. But first, let me explain the characters' concept.

Basically, this character will be 2 demons of different elements each with an incantation to transform the other into a pair of pistols. So one will use the other to fire its element at a distance (that's where the special ammo of dual pistols comes in). While in pistol form, they can shoot their element far but while in their normal form they can only manifest their element close-ish ranged. With binds, it'll be easy to change costumes and ammo to show the change.

SooOOOooO, now we need to pick the element. If we had energy/electric bullets, this wouldn't be hard. I'd choose electric manipulation + fire/ice mastery. But since we only have 2 elemental ammos, we're stuck with fire and ice.

If I choose Fire manipulation, I'll have to pair it with Ice mastery and if I choose Ice manipulation I'll have to pair it with fire mastery. Of the powers within those sets, I could choose:

Fire manipulation: Ring of Fire, Combustion, Build up, Blazing Aura, Consume, Burn, Hot Feet
Ice mastery: Flash Freeze (I love sleeps when solo), Frozen Armor, Hoarfrost, Hibernate

Ice manipulation: Chilblain, Frozen Fists, Chilling Embrace, Build up, Ice Patch, Shiver, Freezing Touch, Frozen Aura
Fire mastery: Bonfire, Fire shield, Melt Armor, Rise of the Phoenix

Basically, I'm at a toss up. The only issue would be getting the character up to get the epic pool so I could actually use the power of the other demon. /fire would look alot more flashy and have more damage but /ice would be safer. I guess it comes down to the epic. Which is better? Any opinions would be lovely


 

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Fire manipulation: Ring of Fire, Combustion, Build up, Blazing Aura, Consume, Burn, Hot Feet
Ice mastery: Flash Freeze (I love sleeps when solo), Frozen Armor, Hoarfrost, Hibernate
I'd go this route, and try and soft cap s/l def (also easier with Frozen Armor).

If I remember correctly Pistols has a PBAoE that would mesh pretty well with Fire. Plus the idea of Shooting someone then hitting them with a sword of fire would be pretty BA (however I noticed that you don't have either fire sword or fire sword cirlce listed above).


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I'd go this route, and try and soft cap s/l def (also easier with Frozen Armor).

If I remember correctly Pistols has a PBAoE that would mesh pretty well with Fire. Plus the idea of Shooting someone then hitting them with a sword of fire would be pretty BA (however I noticed that you don't have either fire sword or fire sword cirlce listed above).
Yeah, that was one of my thoughts going in, I'd be able to cap smash/lethal defense relatively easy. But on the other hand, the other route has Rise of the Phoenix....seriously, RISE OF THE PHOENIX! That's just bad A with that alone.

As for the swords, I chose not to use those because it cuts into the cool factor (shooting them then whipping out a sword). Now if I could hold a sword in one hand and a pistol in the other, that would *add* coolness, IMO.


 

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Keep in mind, you can color fire blue and/or white for one costume with "winter blasts"... however ice's graphic's just tint... I doubt you can make them look fire-like.


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I can't help you much, I just wanted to say that is a pretty cool concept for a character.


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I can't help you much, I just wanted to say that is a pretty cool concept for a character.
Yeah, not an original concept (loosely related to Death the Kid) but I had the character(s) thought out before Dual Pistols or GR was announced as scheduled. I think the funnest part will be getting the costume, auras, powers and binds all working rather than actually shooting stuff

...shooting stuff will be fun too but you get the idea.
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Keep in mind, you can color fire blue and/or white for one costume with "winter blasts"... however ice's graphic's just tint... I doubt you can make them look fire-like.
That's a possibility. Especially if I do choose /fire, when I switch demons (and costumes), the alternate color for the fire could be blueish white. But then I like /ice's mitigation.


 

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Can you change power colours when you change costumes? I thought you had the same colour powers no matter which costume you were wearing.

If you can then I can make one of my costumes much more to my liking.


 

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Yea, each costume slot can have different color powers.


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I'd go for /Ice Manipulation with Fire Mastery. Dual Pistols is a cool-looking set, so keeping enemies at range while blasting away seems like a better combination that would better fit your concept, especially since you would gain access to Melt Armor in later levels, which helps a lot in weakening bosses and other strong enemies. Also, I think that the combination would look more "Infernal" than the other way around, with Fire popping out of the ground to knock enemies into the air, wrap around you like armor, and bring you back with a big explosion and a show of fiery wings after you've been knocked out, while ice pools at your feet, your touch can encase a person in a block of ice, and you summon up freezing winds on command.


 

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Now if I could hold a sword in one hand and a pistol in the other, that would *add* coolness, IMO.
Sounds like a Dominator Assault powerset to me... >_>


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Sounds like a Dominator Assault powerset to me... >_>
That ... actually could be a really cool set visually.


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That ... actually could be a really cool set visually.
I personally wouldn't want to even ask for that set to be implemented. Player outcry would be unbearable, and the set would just end up being bland due to balance issues, which would cause MORE player outcry about how weak it is, followed by a period of popularity due to some newly discovered exploit when combined with another set, which will lead to both of those sets being nerfed, causing MORE more player outcry, which the devs will attempt to silence with a small buff to one set or another to balance, leading it to be looked down upon by some players and embraced by others like any other set.

The whole process takes about, oh, a year and a half to two years?