Fire/SD Scrapper - Attack Chain numbers
Continue running the chain exactly as you have it. You have the correct order for burst damage. I was merely repeating the order I was given rather than initiating a burst damage discussion. The order makes no difference for required recharge or for DPS.
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Now if I can just figure out how to fix my Fire/SD with the upcoming BotZ nerf...
Oh, nm, I see it now.
Hrrrm. (shrug)
Not that huge a deal.
The order wont matter in a long fight
In a long fight, you likely want to hit Build Up as soon as it has recharged. Now, if your recharge just happens to be such that it's up right before you start that chain again, then yes, running in that order will help your DPS a little, mostly because you get a second shot at your two biggest attacks during the Build Up. But my recharge on Build Up has never been that finely tuned. I click it when it's up. Actually, I'm lazier than that. I click it when it rhythmically makes sense, which is totally lame, but it keeps my fingers from getting confused. My fingers confuse easily. They like repetitive motion.
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In a long fight, you likely want to hit Build Up as soon as it has recharged. Now, if your recharge just happens to be such that it's up right before you start that chain again, then yes, running in that order will help your DPS a little, mostly because you get a second shot at your two biggest attacks during the Build Up. But my recharge on Build Up has never been that finely tuned. I click it when it's up. Actually, I'm lazier than that. I click it when it rhythmically makes sense, which is totally lame, but it keeps my fingers from getting confused. My fingers confuse easily. They like repetitive motion.
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I'm currently running the Incinerate -> Scorch -> Cremate -> Scorch chain and it's fine.
I'm wondering if there is a better chain out there given the amount of recharge I have in my build. I've got 70% global + hasten.
The only issue is, w/out changing the flavor of my build (which I don't really want to do as I'd have to give up something major), the chain needs to be a 3 power chain with either Scorch or FS cause I've only got room for 3 single target attacks in my build. The only other attack the chain could use is Fire Blast from the epic.
Incinerate (+204% recharge, 2.90 seconds) -> Cremate (+134%, 3.03) -> Fire Sword (+69%, 3.56). Here's the comparison between your current chain, that chain, and the top DPS chain:
DPS EPS DPE
73.6 4.06 18.1 Incinerate -> Scorch -> Cremate -> Scorch
78.4 4.32 18.1 Incinerate -> Cremate -> Fire Sword
81.8 4.63 17.7 Incinerate -> Cremate -> Greater Fire Sword
So you get DPS much closer to the top chain without losing the endurance efficiency you're currently enjoying. It's a great chain. Unfortunately, when Hasten drops, you're likely going to end up with a half second gap, even if you have tons of recharge in Incinerate itself. That'll last for 16 seconds out of 136 seconds, during which you'll be at 69.5 DPS... and yeah, it still beats your current chain by plenty. Sounds like a good idea to me.
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Thanks so much, that's exactly the info I needed. I really can't afford a chain that uses more endurance given my current build so Incinerate -> Cremate -> Fire Sword is just what the doctor ordered.
I may be able to squeeze out another 20% recharge which will save me about 7ish seconds off my hasten downtime. Not sure it'd be worth the 800ish million it will cost me. My rough math says it will gain me about .5 DPS (factoring in the reduced hasten downtime, not the reduced Incinerate time since it's such a small change).
Well, it WILL use more endurance than your current chain (0.26 endurance per second more unslotted, less as slotted). What I meant by endurance efficiency is the amount of damage done per point of endurance. The extra damage will cost you in the neighborhood of running an additional toggle. On the other hand, better to run that chain and simply slow down if necessary than to run a slower chain.
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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Incinerate (+204% recharge, 2.90 seconds) -> Cremate (+134%, 3.03) -> Fire Sword (+69%, 3.56). Here's the comparison between your current chain, that chain, and the top DPS chain:
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Cremate ACT=1.716
Fire Sword ACT=1.584
So Incinerate would need to recharge in 3.3 seconds
Incinerate ACT=1.848
Fire Sword ACT=1.584
So Cremate would need to recharge in 3.432 seconds
You had the right +recharge just not the right amount of time it needed to recarge in.
Your numbers are a little off.
Cremate ACT=1.716 Fire Sword ACT=1.584 So Incinerate would need to recharge in 3.3 seconds Incinerate ACT=1.848 Fire Sword ACT=1.584 So Cremate would need to recharge in 3.432 seconds You had the right +recharge just not the right amount of time it needed to recarge in. |
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"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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Well, it WILL use more endurance than your current chain (0.26 endurance per second more unslotted, less as slotted). What I meant by endurance efficiency is the amount of damage done per point of endurance. The extra damage will cost you in the neighborhood of running an additional toggle. On the other hand, better to run that chain and simply slow down if necessary than to run a slower chain.
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I can deal with that...I think.
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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