You might want to adjust the date in the title to October...
Put me down as a tentative - not sure what my plans for Thursday are at this point.
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Originally Posted by Mr E-Man
You might want to adjust the date in the title to October...
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I do have a scrapper that could use this TF, so if I am around, I'll join you with her.
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I added this to the MotD for the Freedom TF Chat channel. Good luck!
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What time on Oct 1st?
If it is a bit later on (and Joe's not running anything), I might be able to be there.
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Originally Posted by Myrdinn
What time on Oct 1st?
If it is a bit later on (and Joe's not running anything), I might be able to be there. |
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Originally Posted by Shockwave1272
ten pm est
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I'm pretty sure Joe said he would probably skip running something this week because he is moving into a new house on Thursday and wasn't sure if the internet would be hooked up yet there. Plus I'm sure he'll have lots of unpacking to do |
Originally Posted by Myrdinn
What time on Oct 1st?
If it is a bit later on (and Joe's not running anything), I might be able to be there. |
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Doh, reading comprehension and stuff. Yesh. And I just yelled at one of the guys in the Pit for not reading their tickets right.|
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Gah. Gotta go apologize.
Welp, to the OP: I'll be there, right on the dot though. I've got a couple of tanks in that range, an emp healer, various scrappers, and I'm trying to get a controller in range this weekend... so... let me know :-)
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Originally Posted by Luna de Nocturne
I'm pretty sure Joe said he would probably skip running something this week because he is moving into a new house on Thursday and wasn't sure if the internet would be hooked up yet there. Plus I'm sure he'll have lots of unpacking to do
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So I will have internet on Thursday, not later today. But Luna is right. I will have a lot of unpacking to do. Everyone have fun, and good luck to all.
I'll be around tomorrow night and be willing to join, but I'm not sure with what. I'll proabably try to get a lowbie into range, but odds are I'll probably fail in that regard.
3:30:25
115 deaths
...... lol
Sorry I didn't make it everyone - I passed out around 9pm & never even turned on my comp last night.
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Originally Posted by Paragon
3:30:25
115 deaths ...... lol |
... I so totally need to figure out what I'm doing wrong with that 'troller. Was using last night as a dry run to see if he'd be any good for the next round; now I'm all paranoid.
(Might stick to a tank or pistoleer blasty!)
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As I kinda mentioned a minute ago Myrdinn, I don't think *you* were doing anything wrong. That's not a great combo. In my experience, it doesn't seem to lock down the foes very well. You can get good damage outta that set, but it's difficult to get a good lockdown with it. |
Originally Posted by Myrdinn
Could have been worse.
... I so totally need to figure out what I'm doing wrong with that 'troller. Was using last night as a dry run to see if he'd be any good for the next round; now I'm all paranoid. (Might stick to a tank or pistoleer blasty!) |
If you *really* want to lock them down, go Earth, Fire, Plant or maybe Ice.
Plus at that level, you should not have had Speed Boost, which is a key part of the Kinetic set. Also, make sure you double slot for accuracy in transfusion. Even with the "beginner's luck" increase in Accuracy, it still misses a lot.
*Also* Vahz and CoT ghosts are very resistant to being locked down.
Posi is just a hard hard TF, and it only gets worse the bigger the team.
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Now I am curious...what powersets was Myrdinn playing? Something /Kin I take it...
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Originally Posted by Luna de Nocturne
As I kinda mentioned a minute ago Myrdinn, I don't think *you* were doing anything wrong. That's not a great combo. In my experience, it doesn't seem to lock down the foes very well. You can get good damage outta that set, but it's difficult to get a good lockdown with it.
If you *really* want to lock them down, go Earth, Fire, Plant or maybe Ice. Plus at that level, you should not have had Speed Boost, which is a key part of the Kinetic set. Also, make sure you double slot for accuracy in transfusion. Even with the "beginner's luck" increase in Accuracy, it still misses a lot. *Also* Vahz and CoT ghosts are very resistant to being locked down. Posi is just a hard hard TF, and it only gets worse the bigger the team. |
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Grav/Kin... And I know you love your grav toons E, but I've got a Grav/Kin as well, and it has been a very painful struggle in the low levels with her |
Originally Posted by Mr E-Man
Now I am curious...what powersets was Myrdinn playing? Something /Kin I take it...
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So maybe I'm biased against the combo 
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No, I wouldn't disagree. |
Originally Posted by Luna de Nocturne
Grav/Kin... And I know you love your grav toons E, but I've got a Grav/Kin as well, and it has been a very painful struggle in the low levels with her
So maybe I'm biased against the combo |
My only experience is with Dark Willow: Grav/Psi Dominator & I do love playing around with some of the powers like Wormhole & Lift, but the holds are definitely not up to Ice or Mind standards. They are also a bit end heavy if I remember correctly.
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End heavy is an understatement. I *did* have sb (or, I had the movement power where I snag speed off a foe); forgoed a second powerpool choices to (I thought) maximize his abilities (recall friend, sprint, and didn't get either teleport OR health).|
Originally Posted by Mr E-Man
No, I wouldn't disagree.
My only experience is with Dark Willow: Grav/Psi Dominator & I do love playing around with some of the powers like Wormhole & Lift, but the holds are definitely not up to Ice or Mind standards. They are also a bit end heavy if I remember correctly. |
My area holds hit most of the time, and, if I had a full bar, actually did fairly well. But, the buffs from Kin didn't buff enough at that level, nor heal enough, to make it worth the offset of the Grav set. Plus, one group basically ran me dry of end; up until the end was dead, the power refresh/etc was good... but, ran me dry.
Hrm. I'm going to have to look at that character long and hard, and go back over my combat logs this weekend.
I've had that character shelved for years... but he may end up with the SR/MA toon: on the shelf until a power pass is made (which makes him an easy target for deletion).
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You are not freakin' kidding on the endurance usage!! Ugh, My grav/kin has been downright painful. I struggled to get her to 22 for SO's, and now I've been unmotivated to play her anymore |
Originally Posted by Mr E-Man
No, I wouldn't disagree.
My only experience is with Dark Willow: Grav/Psi Dominator & I do love playing around with some of the powers like Wormhole & Lift, but the holds are definitely not up to Ice or Mind standards. They are also a bit end heavy if I remember correctly. |
I do love the power (Propel maybe?) that lets you toss junk around. It's my favorite! :smirk:Luckily on Dom's you get the loveliness of Domination mode. That stuff makes any sucky hold worthwhile! Also you can do damage. I've played a lot of Controllers, but I love Doms better for the ability to solo or duo with them and actually be effective!
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At pre-stamina and pre-SO levels, the endurance usage of that set is insane. I remember having to rest after *EVERY* mob!|
Originally Posted by Myrdinn
End heavy is an understatement. I *did* have sb; forgoed a second powerpool choices to (I thought) maximize his abilities (recall friend, only out of teleport, sprint, and didn't get either teleport OR health).
My area holds hit most of the time, and, if I had a full bar, actually did fairly well. But, the buffs from Kin didn't buff enough at that level, nor heal enough, to make it worth the offset of the Grav set. Plus, one group basically ran me dry of end; up until the end was dead, the power refresh/etc was good... but, ran me dry. Hrm. I'm going to have to look at that character long and hard, and go back over my combat logs this weekend. |
The kinetic heal is a pretty good one at mid to upper levels, mainly because it's an accuracy based heal, so you get a boost to it versus area of effect heals.
So what level was your toon naturally? On my friend list it was showing you as 17 or 18ish I think.....
If it was too low for SO's, then that's a huge part of your problem right there.
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Started at level 13 last night; he's a 19 now.|
Originally Posted by Luna de Nocturne
At pre-stamina and pre-SO levels, the endurance usage of that set is insane. I remember having to rest after *EVERY* mob!
The kinetic heal is a pretty good one at mid to upper levels, mainly because it's an accuracy based heal, so you get a boost to it versus area of effect heals. So what level was your toon naturally? On my friend list it was showing you as 17 or 18ish I think..... If it was too low for SO's, then that's a huge part of your problem right there. |
Okay, I treated last night as a cool run, and a chance to see if the toon would be effective for TFs... if I were to repeat Posi on him, with SOs, wouldn't those be leveled out of effectiveness?
Thus, the grav/kin toon may not be something to use, for the horde runs. Trying to branch out a bit, and have toons that fit any situation, for any combo, for the future
Edit-> constant rests: no joke. I don't remember taking the knee that many times... ever. Got to where I was watching Paragon and MB; anytime they were together, I rested (if the rest was recharged). Only way I had even a smidgen of blue most of the TF. Popped blues instantly, too. :-S
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How did you have Speed Boost on a controller is you were 19ish? You don't get access to it until 20. Did you mean Increase Density? It's helpful, but not as spiffy as SB |
Originally Posted by Myrdinn
Started at level 13 last night; he's a 19 now.
Okay, I treated last night as a cool run, and a chance to see if the toon would be effective for TFs... if I were to repeat Posi on him, with SOs, wouldn't those be leveled out of effectiveness? Thus, the grav/kin toon may not be something to use, for the horde runs. Trying to branch out a bit, and have toons that fit any situation, for any combo, for the future Edit-> constant rests: no joke. I don't remember taking the knee that many times... ever. Got to where I was watching Paragon and MB; anytime they were together, I rested (if the rest was recharged). Only way I had even a smidgen of blue most of the TF. Popped blues instantly, too. :-S |
The SO question is best answered by someone else. I'm always confused about that answer. I *think* they still work, but please don't hold me to that. Wait for someone who understands it better to answer :smirk:
My Grav/Kin, I duo'd w/ one of my husbands tanks. A "mace" tank, so one of the slowest damage dealing tanks known to man. That was the most painful combos ever. Took forever, and I'm still burnt out on my Grav/Kin
So yeah, if you were only 19, no SO's, so that's a huge part of your problem there. Keep at it until you can get to 22 and then see how you feel about the toon!
Edit: And remember that with the new Super Side Kicking, if you exemp for a TF, you still get powers up to 5 above your level.
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He is referring to Siphon Speed which increases his character's movement & recharge speed while slowing movement/recharge on the target.|
Originally Posted by Luna de Nocturne
How did you have Speed Boost on a controller is you were 19ish? You don't get access to it until 20. Did you mean Increase Density? It's helpful, but not as spiffy as SB
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However, it does not increase end...
And if he was using the standard Transfusion, Siphon Power & Siphon Speed chain - not counting any attacks - end issues would be prevalent...
Such is life in the lower levels.
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Not to mention the gravity holds; both of them basically looked at my blue bar, laughed manically, and slurped away.
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Originally Posted by Mr E-Man
He is referring to Siphon Speed which increases his character's movement & recharge speed while slowing movement/recharge on the target.
However, it does not increase end... And if he was using the standard Transfusion, Siphon Power & Siphon Speed chain - not counting any attacks - end issues would be prevalent... Such is life in the lower levels. |
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I am running positron tf thursday night at ten pm est. contact point is positron located right next to valkyrie in steel canyon lvl range 10-15.
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