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Invincibility Question

Hyperstrike

By Hyperstrike,
Posted on: 2009-09-18 14:10 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion

 

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My understanding of Invincibility is that you get +def up to 10 foes in range. Does it also have a base defense just turning it on? This is for both scrappers and tanks.

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Yes.

Scrappers/Brutes: 3.75%
Tankers: 5%

As far as I remember, it's enhanceable as well.

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Originally Posted by LostHalo View Post
Yes.

Scrappers/Brutes: 3.75%
Tankers: 5%

As far as I remember, it's enhanceable as well.
You only get that bonus while you have a mob in range of you. Here is how Invincibility works:

For each target in range, Invincibility gives you:
  • 5% / 3.75% defense
  • 1% / 0.75% defense
The first is set to not self stack. This means that you'll only ever get 5% / 3.75% due to it for 1 mob or 10. This is why people call it the "first target bonus." The latter will self stack, so 1% / 0.75% for one mob, 2% / 1.5% for two, etc. Add the two together and you get:

1 mob - 6% / 4.5%
2 mobs - 7% / 5.25%
3 mobs - 8% / 6%
...
9 mobs - 14% / 10.5%
10 mobs - 15% / 11.25%


[edit: So if you don't have any mobs around you, you get no extra defense.]

 

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Originally Posted by Sarrate View Post
You only get that bonus while you have a mob in range of you. Here is how Invincibility works:

For each target in range, Invincibility gives you:
  • 5% / 3.75% defense
  • 1% / 0.75% defense
The first is set to not self stack. This means that you'll only ever get 5% / 3.75% due to it for 1 mob or 10. This is why people call it the "first target bonus." The latter will self stack, so 1% / 0.75% for one mob, 2% / 1.5% for two, etc. Add the two together and you get:

1 mob - 6% / 4.5%
2 mobs - 7% / 5.25%
3 mobs - 8% / 6%
...
9 mobs - 14% / 10.5%
10 mobs - 15% / 11.25%


[edit: So if you don't have any mobs around you, you get no extra defense.]

Ok. Then that shows what I was seeing on my lvl 50 BS/Inv. Scrapper. Mids is showing a defensive bonus even when it's set to 0 in range, which threw me off.

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I prefer to look at it as, it has a base defense, but I don't get it if all the attacks are coming at me from range.

Honestly, I've always wondered about the mechanic of the power. Am I grabbing foes and shoving them in the way of attacks? (Actually, I consider it an effect of the confusion of a pitched melee)

 

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Originally Posted by Rangle M. Down View Post
Ok. Then that shows what I was seeing on my lvl 50 BS/Inv. Scrapper. Mids is showing a defensive bonus even when it's set to 0 in range, which threw me off.
Yeah, if you watch your defense numbers in a quickly shifting mob, you'll seem them jumping around like a frog on a hotplate.

That's normal for Inv/* toons. Really sucks when you have a bunch of running buffers in the enemy group (Tsoo sorcerors, etc).


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Originally Posted by Jade_Dragon View Post
I prefer to look at it as, it has a base defense, but I don't get it if all the attacks are coming at me from range.

Honestly, I've always wondered about the mechanic of the power. Am I grabbing foes and shoving them in the way of attacks? (Actually, I consider it an effect of the confusion of a pitched melee)
It's conservation of ninjutsu at work.