Super Holding Dom


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Hey, so I was thinking about making my first dom, and I heard somebody say that he had once seen a crazy dom hold Heroes and AVs like the phalanx and such.

Any suggestions on which powersets to go with to make this a reality for me? I would love to sit there and just own some of those darn RV phalanx members.


 

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They might've seen a Mind Dom putting Heroes to sleep, perhaps. There's no way to hold them very long.


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Originally Posted by Sardan View Post
They might've seen a Mind Dom putting Heroes to sleep, perhaps. There's no way to hold them very long.
Actually there is. A Mind or Fire dom with certain specs can permahold any AV up to level 53, with certain exceptions such as statesman, pylons, hami.

Ice can do this for any AV at level 50. I haven't tested any of the other primaries, but the animation times for them might be a bottleneck.

proof:
http://76.118.242.96/website/transfer/hold.jpg


 

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Originally Posted by powerisall View Post
Hey, so I was thinking about making my first dom, and I heard somebody say that he had once seen a crazy dom hold Heroes and AVs like the phalanx and such.

Any suggestions on which powersets to go with to make this a reality for me? I would love to sit there and just own some of those darn RV phalanx members.
To be specific, a Dominator specced for ridiculous amounts of +recharge and using a fast-animating ST Hold can permahold a PToD AV. The PToD issue is worthwhile having a look at if you're not familiar with it, as it's the main thing you are trying to overcome here.

The problem comes with maintaining the level of hold magnitude to do so, given that over the reasonably long time that it would take to actually defeat an AV while solo or in a small team, your chances of getting two or three misses in a row is quite real. For this purpose having a backup strategy (usually a high mag quick cast Sleep) is important.

Mind Control gives both key requisites: Dominate animates in 1.1 secs and it has both Mezmerize and Mass Hypnosis for Sleep purposes.

From the cast time perspective Fire Control has an edge as well because Char has a cast time of 1.07 secs, but each of the other Control sets single target holds have cast times approaching 2 seconds (and over 2 seconds in the case of Plant). While that doesn't make things impossible, Mind and Fire do have the edge.

Finally, if you're after proof that it can be done, Liliaceae did some videos of his Mind/Fire permadom soloing a couple of PToD AVs on this thread here.


 

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Originally Posted by Southern_Comfort View Post
*** yawn***
Come on Ditzy; this guys has been on the forums for three months and still has single digit post figures.

Don't you think it's appropriate to give a more detailed response than usual?

Not everyone has mutliple L50 permadoms and been playing since CoV launch ...


 

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Originally Posted by MinMin View Post
Come on Ditzy; this guys has been on the forums for three months and still has single digit post figures.

Don't you think it's appropriate to give a more detailed response than usual?

Not everyone has mutliple L50 permadoms and been playing since CoV launch ...
Yeah really! Heck I've been playing since launch, have a few level 50 Dominators, and not one of them is permaDOM. So even some of us long time players feel like losers. Give us a break.

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i feel its more important to play the game than to post in the forum for that game. Joined late May anyway.

Ok, so I'll take a look into it. Any IOs/IO sets reccommended besides the usual permadom ones?