Slotting for Necro/Dark


Carnifax

 

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Greetings Masterminds, for my 1000th post I decided to pose these questions.

My Necro/Dark is sitting pretty at level 38. I'm currently only using SO's with the occasional IO thrown in. He has around 11 million on him and can get another 2 million if needed.

My main focus is going to be taking on AV's solo. The AOE damage scares me though. Is there some frankenslotting to increase melee defense?

Being Necro/Dark, is there a tried and true slotting technique that is preferred? I've heard that I should get a KB protection IO but I don't really seem to get knocked back that much...

What Procs get the most use with this combo?

Thanks for any help!


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Originally Posted by MaestroMavius View Post
Greetings Masterminds, for my 1000th post I decided to pose these questions.

My Necro/Dark is sitting pretty at level 38. I'm currently only using SO's with the occasional IO thrown in. He has around 11 million on him and can get another 2 million if needed.

My main focus is going to be taking on AV's solo. The AOE damage scares me though. Is there some frankenslotting to increase melee defense?

Being Necro/Dark, is there a tried and true slotting technique that is preferred? I've heard that I should get a KB protection IO but I don't really seem to get knocked back that much...

What Procs get the most use with this combo?

Thanks for any help!
I have no experience with necro/ past level 24, but I do have a good feel for MM's in general.

From what I've seen, to take down an AV, you need a very specific build. You'll need challenge to keep the AV's attention on you. Stamina is a must since the battles will be so long. Hasten could also be a necessity because it lets you pump out more dark servants and drop more dark patches.

Tactics: Keep your pets out of AoE range of you. This puts them outside your heal, but as long as you keep the AV's attention, they shouldn't need it. Maybe move in to them for a heal every once in a while, but realize that you're going to endanger them to do that. Be sure to keep them in range of supremacy though, for bodyguard mode and damage bonus.

Slotting: Zombies are simple, acc/damage all the way. Easy to ED cap even without sets. Give the Grave Knight's an achilles heel proc. That -resist is incredible against AV's. After that, slot with acc/damage from different sets until you're at the ED cap and then fill what's left with tohit debuff. Your best defense will be stacking -tohit debuff. To that end, you'll want accuracy, damage, and tohit debuff in the lich, with priority to accuracy and tohit debuff. Don't worry about holds for him, since an AV is not going to be held. I would slot the dark servant for tohit debuff as well, along with capping the recharge and adequate accuracy.

Also, it'd be good to fit the unique +defense and +resist pet damage enhancements where you can. I'd suggest zombies, since they have the least "extras" to enhance. Also, throw the unique +defense and +resist recharge intensive pet enhancements into soul extraction.

That's all I got, hope it's accurate, and good luck!


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Would the chance for build-up proc be useful? If so would it be better to put it in GK or zombies?


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
... I would slot the dark servant for tohit debuff as well, along with capping the recharge and adequate accuracy....
-ToHit/Recharges and -ToHit/Rech/Ends from Dark Watchers Despair & Dampened Spirits should pretty much do that for you. Then 1 or 2 accuracy and, if you've the space, a heal. This was my pre pet recharge nerf slotting but it works out well now too since you need to get DS perma and maximise his -ToHit.

I'm assuming Dark Servant wasn't changed to take Accurate ToHit Debuff IOs?


 

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-ToHit/Recharges and -ToHit/Rech/Ends from Dark Watchers Despair & Dampened Spirits should pretty much do that for you. Then 1 or 2 accuracy and, if you've the space, a heal. This was my pre pet recharge nerf slotting but it works out well now too since you need to get DS perma and maximise his -ToHit.

I'm assuming Dark Servant wasn't changed to take Accurate ToHit Debuff IOs?
In fact he was, he now accepts them, along with accurate healing (IIRC). I considered swapping to Siphon Insight, but I saw (2) 2% Debt protection, (I think it's debt protection. I may be mistaken) had a quick chuckle to myself, and slotted some more HOs :P

Edit: I also don't see Accurate toHit debuff being worth its salt in Dark Servant, due to his 2.00x base accuracy multiplier. Mine has 3.33x Accuracy from the HOs as, well, you can never have too much. Still, if you needed to cut down on something to make room for more tohit...i'd make it accuracy


 

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In fact he was, he now accepts them, along with accurate healing (IIRC). I considered swapping to Siphon Insight, but I saw (2) 2% Debt protection, (I think it's debt protection. I may be mistaken) had a quick chuckle to myself, and slotted some more HOs :P
Interesting. Not for the Set Bonuses, more for the damage PROC. It *should* just attempt to PROC on Tentacles but I wonder if it's working properly or if it would go off for things like the -ToHit auras too. (my biggest disappointment with the -ToHit sets when they came out was the lack of a damage PROC).


 

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In fact he was, he now accepts them, along with accurate healing (IIRC). I considered swapping to Siphon Insight, but I saw (2) 2% Debt protection, (I think it's debt protection. I may be mistaken) had a quick chuckle to myself, and slotted some more HOs :P

Edit: I also don't see Accurate toHit debuff being worth its salt in Dark Servant, due to his 2.00x base accuracy multiplier. Mine has 3.33x Accuracy from the HOs as, well, you can never have too much. Still, if you needed to cut down on something to make room for more tohit...i'd make it accuracy
That 2.00x base accuracy is a fallacy. It doesn't mean anything, since that's only the accuracy of the summon power, which can't really miss...

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_M...s#Pet_Accuracy


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
That 2.00x base accuracy is a fallacy. It doesn't mean anything, since that's only the accuracy of the summon power, which can't really miss...

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_M...s#Pet_Accuracy
There's an excellent list of all the Villains Dark Servant at Red Tomax. They all have normal accuracy.

Never knew Chill of the Night was an auto power either, I thought it was a toggle. That makes it even better in terms of summoning Fluffy in the middle of a spawn to take the alpha.


 

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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
That 2.00x base accuracy is a fallacy. It doesn't mean anything, since that's only the accuracy of the summon power, which can't really miss...

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_M...s#Pet_Accuracy
Aha, thanks for clearing that up