Defense has nothing to do with generating fury. It's not if the hit lands, it's if the hit was attempted.
My only brute is a DB/SR, his fury is almost always at 75%+
I would also have to say it depends on your focus are you focusing on damage output or holding agro if the later then max defense is a good thing despite any loss to dmg or fury generation because your job is not to kill the agro just hold it so it does not get your team mates while they kill the agro.
if damage is your goal then maybe more ballance however if your making a PvP brute forget fury and focus on def, res and raw damage
Sacrificing damage for high def is a myth.
Period.
Fury can be generated through your attacks as well as through being attacked. And as was pointed out already, it doesn't have to hit you to generate it.
Also, if you build right, with WP you can softcap def, and get a lot of +regen. This will make you damn hard to kill. You can still get a lot of damage into your attacks, and if you take the time to work for it, you can build solid bonus damage. With more AoE in your set, you will sacrifice a little bit, but you probably won't notice it much.
here is a sample build.
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Kitten-Stomper: Level 50 Science Brute
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Havoc Punch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(21), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(21), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(31), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(33)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(3), Numna-Heal/Rchg(15), Heal-I(34)
Level 2: Mind Over Body -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(11), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), RctvArm-ResDam(13), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(13)
Level 4: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(5), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Heal-I(7)
Level 6: Build Up -- HO:Membr(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(7), Rec'dRet-ToHit(34)
Level 8: Thunder Strike -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(9), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(9), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Oblit-%Dam(27), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(29)
Level 12: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(45)
Level 14: Super Jump -- HO:Micro(A)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(17), Numna-Heal/Rchg(17), HO:Golgi(27)
Level 18: Chain Induction -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(23), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(29)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 22: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 24: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A), Numna-Heal(25), Numna-Heal/Rchg(39), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(40)
Level 26: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(43)
Level 30: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 32: Lightning Rod -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 35: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(36), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), RctvArm-ResDam(36)
Level 38: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(39)
Level 41: Soul Tentacles -- Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg(A), Enf'dOp-EndRdx/Immob(42), Enf'dOp-Acc/EndRdx(42), Enf'dOp-Immob/Rng(42), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg(43), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob(43)
Level 44: Taunt -- Zinger-Taunt(A), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg(45), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(45), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(46), Zinger-Taunt/Rng(46), Zinger-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Gloom -- Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(48), Decim-Acc/Dmg(50)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(25), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(33), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Dark Armor is like that kid you knew in school that didn't know when to shut up, and no matter how bad he got beaten down, he got right back up again and kept on talking.
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A brute who isn't on a team to kill things is not a brute.
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Originally Posted by MsMisery
I would also have to say it depends on your focus are you focusing on damage output or holding agro if the later then max defense is a good thing despite any loss to dmg or fury generation because your job is not to kill the agro just hold it so it does not get your team mates while they kill the agro.
if damage is your goal then maybe more ballance however if your making a PvP brute forget fury and focus on def, res and raw damage |
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Originally Posted by Shrikefire
A brute who isn't on a team to kill things is not a brute.
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That's correct. The previous poster must have been thinking of a Tanker.
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Awesome, I didn't know that. I always thought the hit needed to land and often get hit enough to not realize that fury was going up even when I wasn't getting hit. Thank you.|
Originally Posted by Xemulas
Defense has nothing to do with generating fury. It's not if the hit lands, it's if the hit was attempted.
My only brute is a DB/SR, his fury is almost always at 75%+ |
Told ya I was new to Brutes, hehe.
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Then why are you still lurking on the forums? Go out and SMASH something, dammit! |
Originally Posted by Night_Fyre
Told ya I was new to Brutes, hehe.
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If it has eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.
Hey,
I've got a level 43 Elec/WP brute I'm working. It's my first run through of WP on any AT.
I see that WP has a lot to offer. Regen/Def/and Resist, plus end help. Nice. My question is though, is going for high defense kinda self-defeating because of fury?
Right now I've got something like 30 HP/sec regen without RttC (not sure what ii is with it, but it's fully slotted with heal IOs), notable resists of over 50% to S/L and 30% to psi, and 20'ish S/L defense (28'ish to en/neg en & 24'ish to fire/cold).
Should I go for more Defense? And if so, obviously with my durability increasing but at a cost to damage, is it worth it? What about other Brutes, too? I ask because the high defense just seems counter to the idea of the AT.
I mostly solo and have really no problem rolling on Ruthless. I just was wondering what everyone thought about it. If this has been discussed at length before, my apologies... I'm new to the Brute forum.
Thanks,