Wiki etiquette


Aggelakis

 

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So I was reading the icons inner symbol key article on ParagonWiki, and I got to thinking; I don't like it. It has several hastily-made inner symbols on display that don't exist in the game, provides a good deal of information that is largely guesswork and conjecture, and barely uses the "examples" column in the chart.

Naturally, since it's a wiki, I can just go and fix it, which I think I'll do. Only thing is, since I'm writing about how icons are supposed to work, naturally I'll want to cover how in-game, many icons are wrong, which is of course a perfect spot to segue into a plug for the power icon fix pack. The pack though, along with all the other mods or addons available from the community, is never mentioned on ParagonWiki, which leads me to believe that doing so may be a faux pas. I figured I'd just ask the community if they thought so.


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Plug away! I hadn't even heard of the pack until I stumbled across your sig. (post more) The Self Destruction, Fortune and Mission telporter fixes are the best!


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I'd say go ahead and plug. I consider you the foremost expert on power icons, so you changing the entry is a super good thing.

Wikis, also, are really supposed to point to ALL information about something. Not just some of it. Adding an entry mentioning your popular and well-made icon pack seems like something that really *should* be there.

But, then again, I'm not a big-time contributor to the wiki.


 

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Paragon Wiki forums

Please post your suggestion there and get consensus before replacing stuff wholesale.

Also, if you want to add your icon pack to the community portal, feel free - that's not an admin-made list, it's a user-made list.


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Oops, too late. Already did it.
It's OK - you didn't replace things wholesale (meaning completely change the whole idea of the page), so it's not as big a deal as I was expecting (you worded it kind of extreme in your OP :P )

We'll have to deal with Icons Outer Ring Key (and linked pages)...but let's take this to the wiki forums, where it's pertinent and will be more easily seen by the wiki's editors (not many of us poke deep into the forums).


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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

 

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Originally Posted by Vanden View Post
So I was reading the icons inner symbol key article on ParagonWiki, and I got to thinking; I don't like it. It has several hastily-made inner symbols on display that don't exist in the game, provides a good deal of information that is largely guesswork and conjecture, and barely uses the "examples" column in the chart.
I do like the new page's layout and organization better. It also makes so much sense to combine the inner and out symbols onto one page. Duh, Jason, duh.

I'm also glad you took the time to fill in the examples on the chart.

I'll mention it here and on the wiki discussion thread inside the Titan forums: Where should we put items that are at best guesswork and conjecture?

As your icon pack illustrates, the iconic system needs to be overhauled and corrected in at least over a hundred places. There are many places where symbols are contradictory, don't follow the convention for other similar powers, or the symbol components to make the correct icon exist, but haven't been put together yet.

Jason Olmstead (UI guy at PS) filled one of the longest open positions they were hiring for. I imagine the backlog of work and ideas they need him to implement will take precedence over fixing power icons to be consistent. Especially, since a player-made solution is available. It would seem to me, that icon inconsistencies are a low priority, quality of life, fix.


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Oops, too late. Already did it.
ZOMG!





Definitely, edit it if something's wrong or you can make it better. All I ask is, like Aggelakis mentioned, if you want to make some large-scale changes (i.e. formatting overhauls or changes that affect a lot of pages), post in on our forums first to get feedback and/or opinions.


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