Advice regarding a tri-form build needed


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As for Orbiting Death ... the beauty of it is what happens when you've got it slotted up AND you've got a tanker grabbing aggro (away from you) and you (human) Sunless Mire. With a full 10 foes in the Mire, you're getting +112.5% damage ... which then boosts Orbiting Death to 25.3 Negative Damage every 2 seconds to everything in a 20 ft radius around you for 0.68 END per second (when using the Obliteration slotting I have, which is pretty "low end" as far as these things go). That's basically Sunless Mire damage, in a larger radius, every 4 seconds ... not including the chance to proc the Smashing Damage.

It makes for an absolutely awesome "rip, tear, shred" power when used on teams (especially with a tanker grabbing all the aggro).
I appologize if this comes across as rude but this is the sort of post that I think makes WS players make poor build decisions.

In squid form with just 4 people in the mire not the 10 your looking at and just repeatedly spamming 1 of the aoe squid blasts and ignoring all other powers I would be looking at 92 points of damage per 2 seconds. You don't even want to know what the numbers change to if I use both aoe's up the mire to the same 10 as yours and add in a fulcrum shift.

The words rip tear and shred used to describe orbiting death is misleading in the extream.

I am sorry if this came across poorly, and I do appreciate your including numbers in your post that could be compaired. I truely do think using numbers in posts like this will help new and inexperienced Kheldians make informed choices in their build.


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I appologize if this comes across as rude but this is the sort of post that I think makes WS players make poor build decisions.

In squid form with just 4 people in the mire not the 10 your looking at and just repeatedly spamming 1 of the aoe squid blasts and ignoring all other powers I would be looking at 92 points of damage per 2 seconds. You don't even want to know what the numbers change to if I use both aoe's up the mire to the same 10 as yours and add in a fulcrum shift.

The words rip tear and shred used to describe orbiting death is misleading in the extream.

I am sorry if this came across poorly, and I do appreciate your including numbers in your post that could be compaired. I truely do think using numbers in posts like this will help new and inexperienced Kheldians make informed choices in their build.

Wait... You're now trying to compare Orbiting Death with Squid blasts?

You're better than that.

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Alright, then I'll just say in my opinion 12.75'ish damage per second I would have a hard time using the word respectable, much less the words used previously.

For the endurance used and damage per second I believe this to be a truely poor power to use for damage. I am honestly trying to find a power that does less damage per second.


If you PL'd to 50 just to get an "epic" thinking you'd be �ber, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the HEATs, because the VEATs were designed so that anyone with one good finger and a braincell can rock the toggles.

 

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Obsidian is right, the numbers shown by Redlynne were correct, but they aren't as good as Redlynne made them sound through the use of adjectives (I doubt there was anything underhand about what Redlynne wrote though).

He was just making the point (More for the benefit of a newbie than a vet) that they shouldn't over-estimate Orbiting Death and the overall benefit it will give to your damage output.


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I think I need to hire PrincessDarkstar as my official translator, my methods of communication are too often unintentionaly brutal sounding.


If you PL'd to 50 just to get an "epic" thinking you'd be �ber, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the HEATs, because the VEATs were designed so that anyone with one good finger and a braincell can rock the toggles.

 

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I think I need to hire PrincessDarkstar as my official translator, my methods of communication are too often unintentionaly brutal sounding.
It's like good cop, bad cop


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The thing with Orbiting Death I feel is it has to be worth its action time and not be causing a a great problem with end recovery if left on but hitting nothing. So I needed to see how many targets for good DPE, my position, time spent in the positions and how long those targets would be living anyway in order for it to be worth the cast time and power pick in relation to other AoEs.

I basically AoE the bleep out of things, I have all the AoEs but OD. If everything lived long enough and I spent enough time in the right position then I would get something out of it. I am probably an old dog though that won't get out any new tricks.


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It's like good cop, bad cop
But I don't wanna be bad cop. You always get to be good cop. It's not fair.


If you PL'd to 50 just to get an "epic" thinking you'd be �ber, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the HEATs, because the VEATs were designed so that anyone with one good finger and a braincell can rock the toggles.

 

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I think I need to hire PrincessDarkstar as my official translator, my methods of communication are too often unintentionaly brutal sounding.
I always said you need to play a Brute... (Just kidding, but I just couldn't resist this jab!)


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I always said you need to play a Brute... (Just kidding, but I just couldn't resist this jab!)
Don't worry from here on out I'll be alot more brutish, and alot less helpfull.


If you PL'd to 50 just to get an "epic" thinking you'd be �ber, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the HEATs, because the VEATs were designed so that anyone with one good finger and a braincell can rock the toggles.

 

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Don't ...care...at all.


If you PL'd to 50 just to get an "epic" thinking you'd be �ber, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the HEATs, because the VEATs were designed so that anyone with one good finger and a braincell can rock the toggles.