Stone/Stone !


Captain_Tastic

 

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Hello, i have had a Stone/Stone tank for a while now and i do love it but i seem to have trouble when it comes to hurding and things.
Im just wondering what peoples builds are to see if i have done anything wrong.
The build has to be for like teaming/Herding basically. Thank you for your help!


 

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Your problems may not be down to you. Some people seem to think that because you share the same room as the enemies they must be taunted It'll be better if someone watched you in game as it could be a whole mix of things.

I have macros that come out 1 - 3 times on a mish depending on the team to let them know my intentions, its for them and me, but they can go unheeded, so I may lie and give a false statement to delay them, then they wonder why I lied, well its cos the truth ain't good enough to be heeded and a lie works so much more.

Gaining aggro control and the moving of numbers is "tending to numbers positionally" which counts as herding to me.


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It would help a lot if you could describe your problems with herding a little bit.
Is it a survivability problem or a problem with getting/keeping aggro? In the latter case the problem might just be that stone tankers are not exactly the best at juggling aggro of more than 17 enemies.




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Well, It might be just me being a noob right but i run herd them all up if health goes to low i use earths embrace and i use purples and yet my health still seems to deteriate quite quick. and even if it doesnt the enemys seem not to keep taunted for long with attacking my team instantly.
I think it must be me! whats everyones builds on a stone/stone?
And any tips about herding will be taking with much consideration and thankfulness


 

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Your problems may not be down to you. Some people seem to think that because you share the same room as the enemies they must be taunted It'll be better if someone watched you in game as it could be a whole mix of things.

I have macros that come out 1 - 3 times on a mish depending on the team to let them know my intentions, its for them and me, but they can go unheeded, so I may lie and give a false statement to delay them, then they wonder why I lied, well its cos the truth ain't good enough to be heeded and a lie works so much more.

Gaining aggro control and the moving of numbers is "tending to numbers positionally" which counts as herding to me.

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I consider lying to be an essential tool in any tank's armoury . Quite often I will go to a corner, say "Herding to here" knowing fine well I will be using a corner ahead of that. Basicially because some teams are incapable of waiting for 10-20 seconds without creeping forward and getting in the LoS.


 

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Well, It might be just me being a noob right but i run herd them all up if health goes to low i use earths embrace and i use purples and yet my health still seems to deteriate quite quick. and even if it doesnt the enemys seem not to keep taunted for long with attacking my team instantly.
I think it must be me! whats everyones builds on a stone/stone?
And any tips about herding will be taking with much consideration and thankfulness

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What level are you currently? Lower than lvl 32 I'd assume as that doesn't sound like my experiences with my stoney post-granite. If so then herding on most tanks at that level can be precarious. Getting a well balanced team with some buffs and control will massively enchance your survivablity. With regards holding aggro... are you always running mud pots? That helps a lot.

With regard herding itself, it's difficult to tell you where you are going wrong without seeing you, but in general the keys to herding is nice clear communication with the team, picking the right corners, patience, and staying hidden. Run to the first mob and stand in it letting your taunt aura grab them, a ranged taunt on the second mob, then back to the corner at which you have your team waiting. Then have the patience to STAY HIDDEN around the corner for a nice tight pull.

Hope that lot helps a little. If not, feel free to ask more questions till we get it sorted .


 

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Guys, I was completely wrong Stone/Stone is amazing. At first i was getting bored but now i cant believe how good it is... With granite on all the damage i get is like -7 without enhancements! Herding is pretty good now. However the speed is a downfall but we all know that! I normally have SS on my other alts so i think thats why it seems soooooo slow and boring on this char, however still immense.
Thank you for your help and advice! I (l) Stone Tanks they are so much fun