Fireball

Someone mentioned that Fireball doesn't get containment, is that correct?

If so: *mutters* bloody farmers getting things nerfed *mutters*

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Nope.

Does Containment for my Grav/TA anyway, or at least used to and I haven't heard or seen anything to state it had been changed.

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Cool, I will take back my *mutters* bloody farmers getting things nerfed *mutters* then

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All primay and secondary powers except pet (and I think pseudo pets) should benifit from containment. Epics haven't for a couple of years and I don't believe ancilliary or inherrents do either. Temps don't.

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Mind of Gaia lvl 50 Defiant's first Mind/Storm 'troller.
Deadly Doc 50 Dark/Dark Corr
and lots more on Pinnacle,Union and Defiant

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All primay and secondary powers except pet (and I think pseudo pets) should benifit from containment. Epics haven't for a couple of years and I don't believe ancilliary or inherrents do either. Temps don't.

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All Epics DO get containment damage and always have. Even Ice Storm, as it was changed during the Great Epics Nerf (when Epic damage was lowered specifically because they were doing Containment damage too).

In fact with the addition of Frost Breath to Ice it could easily be the most damaging AOE Epic now (but maybe a bit slow to drop it all since Ice Storm is DoT).

Most Controller secondaries won't do Containment, or at least the more useful ones (like Forcefields AOE damage & Knockdown) don't.

All pets don't and most pseudo pets don't (Ice Storm being the only one I can think of which does)

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Most Controller secondaries won't do Containment, or at least the more useful ones (like Forcefields AOE damage & Knockdown) don't.



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Ah! I was wondering why Controller Repulsion Bomb and Force Bolt does more damage than Defender ones. Meh! Here goes my Mind/FF superior damage controller idea, right to the garbage.

Oh also ice bolt gets a weird containment damage. It's damage is better than fire and earth single target ranged attacks i guess. I get numbers like this; 100, 46, 58. No never checked on Combat tab.

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Most Controller secondaries won't do Containment, or at least the more useful ones (like Forcefields AOE damage & Knockdown) don't.



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Ah! I was wondering why Controller Repulsion Bomb and Force Bolt does more damage than Defender ones. Meh! Here goes my Mind/FF superior damage controller idea, right to the garbage.

Oh also ice bolt gets a weird containment damage. It's damage is better than fire and earth single target ranged attacks i guess. I get numbers like this; 100, 46, 58. No never checked on Combat tab.

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You're right. Looking at City of Data its Contained figure seems to be still using the pre-nerf value or something.

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Oh also ice bolt gets a weird containment damage. It's damage is better than fire and earth single target ranged attacks i guess. I get numbers like this; 100, 46, 58. No never checked on Combat tab.

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Just had a look on Mids:
Fire Blast 77.1
Ice Blast 103.4
Hurl Boulder 100.3

So Ice does more damage and Cold damage being less resisted than Smashing could explain the difference between IB and HB.

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L50s: Tanks: Cryofission - Ice/EM - Dr Celsius - Fire/Ice - Saint George - SD/SS | Controllers: Psichosis - Ill/Kin - Major Chaos - Ill/Stm | Scrappers - Neutron Crusader - DM/SR

Currently Levelling: Angelic Blade - BS/WP Scrapper | Seeds of Destruction - Plant/Kin Controller

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So Ice does more damage and Cold damage being less resisted than Smashing could explain the difference between IB and HB.

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Wouldn't that have to be the other way around? Smashing/Lethal damage is normally higher as a portion of it is usually resisted.

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