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While you dont need IOs to have a viable build, they were huge advantage pre-I13, they are nigh pointless now, and the main problem is this:
- Either IO sets provide the huge wow-like advantage, which not only pisses off people like me who hate to grind, causes PVP NOT be viable until you have them. This forces you to grind for them making it a long tedious progress of making a pvp character that can actually beat some of the vets. And causes severe inbalance between newer and older characters.
- Or they dont do anything at all, like now, so grinding for them is a huge waste of time. Completely neutralizing the reason for having them in the first place (who needs them for PVE? bah!). [censored] off all those people who like being in the wow-bandwagon, buying your way into an über-character.
Either way its bad. Personally Id rather not have them introduced in the first place and instead have time spent in improving the game engine which is responsible for having an enjoyable GAMING EXPERIENCE, rather than just a bunch of pointless endgame goals. One day youre gonna wake up and ask yourself, "what the heck have I spent all these months for? Boring grind for these 1's and 0's on server somewhere in Germany? I think I go do something more meaningful." (iteration: if getting them wasnt such a grind, it wouldnt be as bad. But since the core game system has remained unchanged all these years, thats whats wrong. Gaming experience is boring, and endgoals dont change that. Only combat has changed slightly, but that is not the core.)
I hope this was sufficient explanation since somebody once asked why I hated IOs in the first place.
Overall, this game was once great and original in the superhero genre. Unfortunately it started off the wrong foot by basing itself on hunt/gather-philosophy of WoW instead of more superhero-like ideas like the games Freedom Force, Spiderman 2, etc. A mistake Im hoping DC universe online wont do. (the interviews have got me really hopeful)
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im not bein funny, but u think u need a viable build so u call it to have a chance of takin us out ?????? dont be so stupid, ive said it from day 1, we dont need purples and viable builds to take some1 out, comes down to skill before wot enhancments u have, we have got as good as we are thru sheer practice n not what enhancments we have, so u keep thinkin that u need the best build to try n take us out, u make IO's the biggest problem going to try n make viable pvp. its not the case unfortunatly, before the IO system was introduced most of us were still in warburg or RV doin wot we did before i13: the pvp fail issue came out. and yes we have IO'd builds but thats our choice, wot we've worked for on multiple toons and i dont think we should be punished for it, we dont need them to gain a advantage people but still its what we've worked for to excel ourselves and if u think im wrong, then i agree with shen, sheer childness. if the devs have listened to people like you when they came up with this failure idea of dimishing returns then i say take a good look at what kind of pvp community u have, a bunch of average skilled lazy moaning childish community and u wonder why u have lost the pvp community that did matter, that had the best interests of what happened or how u could improve pvp, u ignored us all and have very very few left, good riddance.
Shotta
Shotta stop abusing SRM account 
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Shotta stop abusing SRM account
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Ssh, it's a way for everyone to throw stones at SRM when he comes back 
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Shotta stop abusing SRM account
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Ssh, it's a way for everyone to throw stones at SRM when he comes back
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Why use stones when you can use bricks?
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Shotta stop abusing SRM account
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Ssh, it's a way for everyone to throw stones at SRM when he comes back
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Why use stones when you can use bricks?
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Bricks are subject to DR and as such stones are the cheaper option and do the same amount of damage.
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Shotta stop abusing SRM account
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Ssh, it's a way for everyone to throw stones at SRM when he comes back
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Why use stones when you can use bricks?
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Bricks are subject to DR and as such stones are the cheaper option and do the same amount of damage.
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Touché.
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Ssh, it's a way for everyone to throw stones at SRM when he comes back
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Why use stones when you can use bricks?
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Bricks are subject to DR and as such stones are the cheaper option and do the same amount of damage.
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Pssshhhh.Go back in naxx.
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Shotta stop abusing SRM account
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Ssh, it's a way for everyone to throw stones at SRM when he comes back
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Why use stones when you can use bricks?
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Bricks are subject to DR and as such stones are the cheaper option and do the same amount of damage.
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Pssshhhh.Go back in naxx.
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WHY DON'T YOU SPAM STEADY SHOT ABOUT IT?!
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Shotta stop abusing SRM account
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Ssh, it's a way for everyone to throw stones at SRM when he comes back
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Why use stones when you can use bricks?
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Bricks are subject to DR and as such stones are the cheaper option and do the same amount of damage.
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Pssshhhh.Go back in naxx.
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WHY DON'T YOU SPAM STEADY SHOT ABOUT IT?!
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BETTER THAN KEEPING CONCENTRATION UP ALL THE TIME.PSsssshhhh
Hey I have FIVE buttons to press in raids.
YOU HAVE TWO! Steady Shot, Steady Shot, Steady Shot, Volley, Steady Shot.
One i actually got the rotation macroed in one button
More time for the beautiful whimmin huh? I know how you love the Forsaken women.
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More time for the beautiful whimmin huh? I know how you love the Forsaken women.
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You mean he likes the drop dead gorgeous types?
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More time for the beautiful whimmin huh? I know how you love the Forsaken women.
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You mean he likes the drop dead gorgeous types?
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Pfffft dont hang around Extremus too much.He stinks of holy light.
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More time for the beautiful whimmin huh? I know how you love the Forsaken women.
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You mean he likes the drop dead gorgeous types?
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Pfffft dont hang around Extremus too much.He stinks of holy light.
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did you mix up the 'Sh' for the 'L' in light, TG?
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More time for the beautiful whimmin huh? I know how you love the Forsaken women.
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You mean he likes the drop dead gorgeous types?
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Pfffft dont hang around Extremus too much.He stinks of holy light.
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You're just scared of rofladins.
Not that I really play one right now...
Paladins are easy
And retri pallies suck
L2P!
Seriously just kite them, they're (probably) the most kitable class around. JUST AVOID HAMMER OF SKILL OKAY!
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They have hand of freedom, that makes me cry. As does the bubble, and Lay on Hands, and Hammer of 9 Second stun.
I hate Pali's.
I hate Extremus.
SingStar:
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CRACK68:
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Lionsbane:
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I hate Extremus.
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QQ more.
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I hate Extremus.
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QQ more.
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Reroll alliance both of you
Go sit on Xan.
SingStar:
"Extremists LOVE to fish to get us annoyed so we break the forum rules."
CRACK68:
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Lionsbane:
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I hate Extremus.
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QQ more.
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Reroll alliance both of you
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Says the person on a PvE realm.
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IO's are quite possibly the best PvE (and, yes, PvP) mechanic added to the game. Not only is it completely optional (believe it or not it is oh no shock horror) but it actually offers some decent flexibility on how your toon works in quite a few ways. It's certainly better than everyone just geting 50++ SO's etc...
Games like Freedom Force and Spider-Man rely on the exact same mechanic. Do super hero stuff - get points/money/xp to get new powers/skills/mechanics to do MORE super hero stuff. How is this different different to CoH in any major way other than, possibly, the way the game represents it?
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Because some people have the time to get them, and some people don't, which is what most of the i13 moaning is aabout when it comes to diminishing returns.
I agree that they are more of an asset, but people are turning them more into a problem, all because it requires time that they don't have, or rather, they don't have the same amount of hours in the day to spend gaming as much as another person does. Ergo they can't have what they want when someone else gets it...which imo is pretty childish.