Salvage


Fahie

 

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I have probably missed some info but why can´t i add stuff to my storage rack anymore? Where should I put the halloween salvage that I got for other members of my SG can take it?


 

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still a salvage rack, but they are limited to 30 items now. They are also much cheaper now so I stuck another couple in my base for just that purpose!



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We have three set up in our primary workshop (one for each level of Invention Salvage rarity). We'll just have to see if that's good enough.

Personally, I don't understand how:

A set of shelves can only hold 30 pieces...
A vault can hold 50 pieces...

And yet my hero-tights can carry 80 pieces.

It's ridiculous. I believe that this needs to be looked at before the next patch. The vault AND the racks should at LEAST be able to hold MORE than what a hero can. Otherwise we've all just become Slapstick from the New Warriors (infinite pockets).


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The difference here is that personal storage ( be it vault or toon ) is just that. Personal.

Allthough people hoard salvage, it's difficult to affect the markets too much when you have a maximum of 130 on your character.

Additionally, it's been that way from the start so the market has levelled out.

If you bump salvage racks up to even 100 invention salvage each then a SG has the ability to store nearly 2000 rare salvage and hoard them. This *will* affect the markets.
Even with 30 in each there will be an effect.

Bear in mind that anyone could form a one man SG for the sole purpose of invention hoarding. for 1800 prestige rent a month you can currently store over 500 salvage.

2 people doing that could completely control a high-tier rare. Make it 100 per bin and 1 person could do this to two rares.

Fahie


 

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Ok then - downsize my pants to hold less than my massive vault, though ?? :P


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So from 999 down to 30 base salvage, not invention salvage, that can´t be right. Then I have to buy/build 21 more racks for all the salvage I have?


 

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The difference here is that personal storage ( be it vault or toon ) is just that. Personal.

Allthough people hoard salvage, it's difficult to affect the markets too much when you have a maximum of 130 on your character.

Additionally, it's been that way from the start so the market has levelled out.

If you bump salvage racks up to even 100 invention salvage each then a SG has the ability to store nearly 2000 rare salvage and hoard them. This *will* affect the markets.
Even with 30 in each there will be an effect.

Bear in mind that anyone could form a one man SG for the sole purpose of invention hoarding. for 1800 prestige rent a month you can currently store over 500 salvage.

2 people doing that could completely control a high-tier rare. Make it 100 per bin and 1 person could do this to two rares.

Fahie

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99% of sg's aint going to be hoarding anything in communal stores because of the theft problem.

I cant see putting the storage limit up to 100 would hurt, you dont need huge stores now without base salvage anyway.

Also how do you see individuals controlling the market on certain rares? All the new rares available now are from brain storming and they are additions to the market, not rares bought up from the existing market.

This hasnt effected the drop rate of rares has it? So once this period of cheap rare salvage suddenly dumped on the market is over, its back to normal time aint it.

All having 1000 pangien soils is going to do for you is gain you some inf if you dribble them back onto the market once this glut of them is sold and the price goes back up, or kill the price of them again for a while if you dump them on all at once.

Either way you aint cornering any market prices are you.

If individuals wanted to try to do this they could have done it pre / post i13 by storing it on various alts, vaults and the market anyway.


 

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So from 999 down to 30 base salvage, not invention salvage, that can´t be right. Then I have to buy/build 21 more racks for all the salvage I have?

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No you need to convert your base salvage into invention salvage or just sell it, because it is now useless.


 

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But where can I put the halloween salvage? Got 21 of each and I don´t wanna sell them all. Nice for new members in the SG.


 

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But where can I put the halloween salvage? Got 21 of each and I don´t wanna sell them all. Nice for new members in the SG.

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Keep them on your alts.


 

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The difference here is that personal storage ( be it vault or toon ) is just that. Personal.

Allthough people hoard salvage, it's difficult to affect the markets too much when you have a maximum of 130 on your character.

Additionally, it's been that way from the start so the market has levelled out.

If you bump salvage racks up to even 100 invention salvage each then a SG has the ability to store nearly 2000 rare salvage and hoard them. This *will* affect the markets.
Even with 30 in each there will be an effect.

Bear in mind that anyone could form a one man SG for the sole purpose of invention hoarding. for 1800 prestige rent a month you can currently store over 500 salvage.

2 people doing that could completely control a high-tier rare. Make it 100 per bin and 1 person could do this to two rares.

Fahie

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But you can do that anyway, I already have something like:

2 Accounts
4 x level 50 each carrying 100+ items
1 x Base with 540 items

Thats nearly 1000 Rare salvage straight off, thats not counting my other alts or the ability to store stacks of ten in the AH its self. As a method to stop hoarding this fails, as a method to create maximum annoyance it wins hands down.

Plus with people out there actively massaging the AH for best results the actual supply of salvage won't change drastically even if each base was holding onto 10k salvage. (IMO)


 

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So from 999 down to 30 base salvage, not invention salvage, that can´t be right. Then I have to buy/build 21 more racks for all the salvage I have?

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A base can hold a maximum of 18 storage containers, that is racks for salvage, inspirations, enhancements and personal vault.


 

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But you can do that anyway, I already have something like:

2 Accounts
4 x level 50 each carrying 100+ items
1 x Base with 540 items

Thats nearly 1000 Rare salvage straight off, thats not counting my other alts or the ability to store stacks of ten in the AH its self. As a method to stop hoarding this fails, as a method to create maximum annoyance it wins hands down.

Plus with people out there actively massaging the AH for best results the actual supply of salvage won't change drastically even if each base was holding onto 10k salvage. (IMO)

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You can do it anyway, but it involves a lot more effort.

One of our SG leaders has 23 ( yes twenty three ) 50's across two accounts. She likes to play the markets but can't be bothered to keep track of everything on the markets across that many alts.
Hence she doesn't affect the markets TOO much.

My point is that if you can hold 2000+ invention salvage in a base, it will become very easy to control a rare. Hey, even I will do it if they bump the storage up

Fahie


 

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My point is that if you can hold 2000+ invention salvage in a base, it will become very easy to control a rare. Hey, even I will do it if they bump the storage up

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So let me get this right you are going to tie up say 2-5 billion inf buying up 2000 of your chosen rare, to dribble them back on the market a few at a time to earn the odd few million?

Not mentioning of course the ongoing expense you will have of continually buying up all the ones of that type that are put up by everyone else here and in the US.

Good luck with that.


 

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My point is that if you can hold 2000+ invention salvage in a base, it will become very easy to control a rare. Hey, even I will do it if they bump the storage up

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So let me get this right you are going to tie up say 2-5 billion inf buying up 2000 of your chosen rare, to dribble them back on the market a few at a time to earn the odd few million?

Not mentioning of course the ongoing expense you will have of continually buying up all the ones of that type that are put up by everyone else here and in the US.

Good luck with that.

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Ahh .. so now you agree that it is at least possible

I think we're just going to have to agree to differ on this one.

Fahie