A base builder that works...

With attempting to add a room beside a decorated room for on a few different occassions, I decided to clear the tile I wanted to the 'door' to be attached, but of the editor wanted it on the tile beside that. So I clear that one too, and it STILL won't let me add the room. Something about not being able to get to it or something.
Maybe I should open up the opening in the mock wall I use...

Rant aside, a base editer that is not as fiddly as a <self censored> would be nice.


[edit]And an undo button would also be nice, so you can put it back the way it was before you were trying to do things it won't let you...

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@ShadowGhost & @Ghostie
The Grav Mistress, Mistress of Gravity

If you have nothing useful to say, you have two choices: Say something useless or stay quiet.

Less fiddly would be good some of the things it decides you cant do just don't make sense.

and a big YES to the undo button

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Well, roll on I13 and see what we get in that.

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With attempting to add a room beside a decorated room for on a few different occassions, I decided to clear the tile I wanted to the 'door' to be attached, but of the editor wanted it on the tile beside that. So I clear that one too, and it STILL won't let me add the room. Something about not being able to get to it or something.
Maybe I should open up the opening in the mock wall I use...

Rant aside, a base editer that is not as fiddly as a <self censored> would be nice.

[/ QUOTE ]That would be the safe paths for base raiding. You have to be able to reach any targetable objects within one avatar width which means certain items 'block' this route


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[edit]And an undo button would also be nice, so you can put it back the way it was before you were trying to do things it won't let you...

[/ QUOTE ]Yes, I would have loved that when I got fed up with moving stuff round in a 12x16 plot. I started, gave up part way and had to persevere for another 3 hours to make sure that the rest of the group came back to a semi-functional base at least. I was so tired that I couldn't even savour the moment before passing out.

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Tyger (50), Mutation-Controller Mind/FF - oldest Mind/FF on Union

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Theres a lot of things in the builder that really tick me off. One thing was trying to place monitor control items next to each other, and they were 'blocking'....there on a damn wall for heaven sake, how more unblocked can it be ?!
-prays on I13-

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Perhaps the rooms shouldn't attempt to build a doorway on ceation just be happy to be placed where a doorway conection is possible. A door must be placed for the base to be considered acceptable. Also when you try to place a doorway it will 'red flag' the object/s preventing it's placement.
The tree models should have been also designed so the centre of there bounding box coindides with the centre of there base as creating an avenue of trees looks a little off kilter, Sorry /rant mode

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Perhaps the rooms shouldn't attempt to build a doorway on ceation just be happy to be placed where a doorway conection is possible. A door must be placed for the base to be considered acceptable. Also when you try to place a doorway it will 'red flag' the object/s preventing it's placement.

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This is actually a rather good idea and would prevent half of the annoyance with placing a room (the doors have to be in -that- place).

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The tree models should have been also designed so the centre of there bounding box coindides with the centre of there base as creating an avenue of trees looks a little off kilter, Sorry /rant mode

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Aye, a look at the bounding boxes is also needed...

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@ShadowGhost & @Ghostie
The Grav Mistress, Mistress of Gravity

If you have nothing useful to say, you have two choices: Say something useless or stay quiet.

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That would be the safe paths for base raiding. You have to be able to reach any targetable objects within one avatar width which means certain items 'block' this route


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The only raidable object is in an other room, not the one I want the path to be... although the new room also wants a door on the square where the raidable object is, might be it?

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@ShadowGhost & @Ghostie
The Grav Mistress, Mistress of Gravity

If you have nothing useful to say, you have two choices: Say something useless or stay quiet.

You should just be able to switch off raidable bases!

My base will never be raided or contain items that will allow raids. Why the hell should I be penalized for something I will never do?

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since i played spore, i know now how simple it can be, a big YES.
have an arrow for instance to raze and lower ceilings and floors to make sure a mistake or change of mind can be altered.

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You should just be able to switch off raidable bases!

My base will never be raided or contain items that will allow raids. Why the hell should I be penalized for something I will never do?

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Amen.

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I've been thinking, and the problem with the undo button is that all changes are live.

To solve this, maybe the base could be locked down - Under Construction.
This could likely hinder the SG while the base is being edited.

An other (more resource heavy) thought I had was to copy the base to a virtual space, where you can alter what you want, and the base will still be operational. Upon submitting the altered base, there could be like a 30 or 60 second warning before everyone is booted from the base (put that bug to use ) before the new base is put in place.
A possible problem with this might be the storages?

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@ShadowGhost & @Ghostie
The Grav Mistress, Mistress of Gravity

If you have nothing useful to say, you have two choices: Say something useless or stay quiet.

Speaking of storage, a way to god damn hold onto made items rather than having to delete them if theres no-where to put the, during re-shuffle.
Come ON! This is daft. A SG, IC or OOC, would NOT simply throw away something it had made out of rare stuff. eitehr that, or allow rooms to be upgraded in the same way as base plots. Im pretty damn sure im not the only one who knows the pain of getting a bigger teleport room, or defence room. Myes?

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