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OK put together a list of the gathered facts :
short range battery powered spy cameras
Keylogger software
Subliminal message tech
ergotamine compounds
the name of the writer of that book Azure found ..sorry forget the name .. the heavy read book man and superman one
using Smyths contacts and getting Seven to do the same run these as a profile on crime data bases to see what MO matches we get ..also run ergotamine as a separate tag see who has used it in the past or is big into it now .
Get Seven to look at Johnovichs chat group / forum lists for and changes in his usage pattern to see if he was in contact with anyone new......further to see if he was part of and on-line groups with similar profiles ...
Look up someone to give give us some idea of the possible effects of these egrotamine compounds , and what would be needed to make them , also dosage levels , long term effects , ability to notices if your being dosed ..how long would traces remain in the human body ....also are they heat sensitive ..i.e. if you boil the water they are in do they denature and become inert ...and a quick test for them ...so we can put together a field test kit ...
OH and buy in 100 bottles of water
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OH and buy in 100 bottles of water
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I laughed out loud.
As for the historical 'uses' of ergotomine, try clicking on the wiki link I put in the report. I'll get back to you on the rest.
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glad i made you smile , i am aware of its historic uses , but i want you to give us the in game version so we are all working to the same script ..
Gotcha, will do. May take a short while.
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(( Okay, the history of erogtamine, City of Heroes style. Not too different from the real version, actually. ))
Ergot is a form of fungus which parasitizes certain grains and grasses, including rye wheat. It contains as about 2% of its mass an alkaloid called ergotamine. For non-checmists, alkaloids are bad no matter what they are called, ergotamine is no better.
Normal ergotamine results in constriction of the vascular system causing a burning sensation in the limbs, halucination, irrational behaviour, convulsions and death. The loss of blood to some limbs can be severe enough to result in gangrene and loss of the affected limb(s). It is wonderful stuff.
All the famous stories in history revolve around people arriving in towns to discover the population wandering around and watching the pretty colours after their flour has been contaminated with ergotamine during the milling process. The basic mechanism for this is that ergotamine can act as a precursor for the production on lysergic acid, which is a primary component of LSD. Contaminate the food supply and you end up with a village full of happy, hippy, tripping peasants.
Such cases have, of course, died out (mostly, you still see the odd case) because people have learned to identify the fungus infection and reject the affected rye, because rye bread itself is less popular, and because there are fungicides able to deal with ergot before it becomes too prolific.
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just to confirm in my mind , what we found as a derivative of this ergotamine , not a natural product , some thing manufactured ? y/n
however we can find no history of any group making use of it or and derviative for criminal reasons ? y/n
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just to confirm in my mind , what we found as a derivative of this ergotamine , not a natural product , some thing manufactured ? y/n
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Not necessarily a derivative, possibly a mutation, or even a modified version of an original mutation. Remember that we haven't found any 'original material' mostly just fragments banging through mass spectrometers. Piecing the exact structure together isn't easy.
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however we can find no history of any group making use of it or and derivative for criminal reasons ? y/n
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Technically, it can be used to derive LSD and some people have used it for that in the past. Certain sections of The Family have used it to create bulk precursor agents for LSD production.
However, with the proliferation of the various interesting designer drugs (such as Superadine) into the US market, demand for stuff as hard as LSD, but not as hard as the designer drugs has dropped to the point where it isn't economic to produce anything. (Besides which, if you had TV adverts on BAB standing there smacking his fist into his palm and saying "Just say No to drugs, kids" would you be doing anything?)
However, while hunting down data on possible variants, you do come across a couple of references to one rather odd case linked to ergot poisoning in 13th Century Italy. It seems that a small village named Valdoriso, fairly isolated but not hugely far from Polermo, was utterly destroyed in "a huge firestorm, such as might be conjured by the Devil himself, which laid waste to the village and all surrounding fields." About a week later, one survivor appeared at a neighbouring village, raving about demons with red eyes and dark servants. He died of heart failure after a day and scientists have later guessed that this was ergotamine poisoning.
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(( I'll be away from tomorrow until Monday/Tuesday next week at a LRP event. We'll pick things up with something I'll think of over the weekend toward the end of next week. ))
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Chemical analysis of the food and other samples taken from the flat is notified to Arrow Azure this afternoon.
Both foodstuffs and water showed no signs of contamination.
The grey corrosion on the pipes, however, contains more large fragments of an organic molecule. The pathologist suggests that the compound may be some derivative of ergotamine, but there are elements which do not fit any of the known variants. How the substance got into the corrosion stains is unknown, but it presumably leaked into it along with the water that was leaked onto the floor.
(( Any questions or actions, let me know. ))
(( PS. While I remember, Seven said she was based in the Steel Canyon precinct building recently. Clearly she meant the King's Row on, like it says in the story-lette on page 1 of this thread. ))
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