Offline Hero Builder Needed


Alphane

 

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It's more the point are you blaming the tool or the person who attempts to violate copyright.
If Marvel win does this mean any human model generator that can produce legally protected concepts ie models that remind you of things you've seen on TV,Film,Music vids,Comics etc is vunrable to being sued by said company, surely a rather innapropriate precedent to set.
I resent the fact Marvel seem to think they own ( or part own with DC ) the whole superheroe genre just because they were once ( and perhaps still are ) a major contributor to the industry.

Thats the basis of what I just said though really I just said it as a jest to illustrate (can I still do that without anyone sueing?) my point.


 

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this whole issue was beaten to death last month or maybe the month before that it go's something like this

Marvel launched a lawsuit against NCsoft/cryptic on the grounds that the games costume creator could be used to breach marvel copy right

but before it got as far as court room (makes me wonder how strong exactly marvels case was) marvel NCsoft and cryptic came to a agreement this agreement may or may not stop them from releasing a offline costume creator but nobody outside of those 3 company's knows as they cant tell joy public what was agreed to (daft but that's law for you)

and that's about as much as any one knows everything else is guess work.

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Actually, that's not quite correct. The lawsuit DID go to court, and the part about infringing characters having already been created in the game was actually thrown out by the judge; primarily because said infringing characters had actually been made by Marvel themselves.

The rest of the case though, never concluded. Marvel, Cryptic and NCSoft came to an out of court agreement, the terms of which were never made public, and the whole thing was dropped. That's when the offline creator was no longer allowed to be used in the US or EU markets.

Regarding that existing offline creator. It's totally useless these days as it's hopelessly out of date; containing costume pieces only up to issue 3 or 4. It was originally designed just for showing at exhibitions and though it got a small update for the Korean launch, it was full of bugs.


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this whole issue was beaten to death last month or maybe the month before that it go's something like this

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A month ago?!!!1!

This argument was beaten to death, ground into dust, burned, burried, dug up, put in a trunk and dropped in the ocean, fished out and recycled as road grit 2 years ago.

And now Alphane is recycling all the Bic jokes from back then as well.

As I recall, the old Offline Costume Editor was never officially released in the West. It was put on a web site in Korea to help advertise the Eastern release of the game and people worked out how to registry hack it into working in English. It isn't like it was withdrawn from use after the Marvel legal settlement, it was never actually available. NCSoft only used it when they were at a show with no Internet access. They prefered having the game available for demos.

And while the exact terms of the settlement were never made public, it was stated at the time that this was the reason why the West could not have the offline demo software, but the East could.


Tell you what I'd prefer: an offline respec generator. Something that I could sit there with and work out a respec beforehand, and then upload a file which auto-respecs the character the way I've specified.


Disclaimer: The above may be humerous, or at least may be an attempt at humour. Try reading it that way.
Posts are OOC unless noted to be IC, or in an IC thread.

 

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And now Alphane is recycling all the Bic jokes from back then as well.


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as far as copyrights go, you can make everything offline, as long as it doesn't go in public.
they can make an offline costume creator, but the creator can never public the copyrighted designs of marvel/dc.


 

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That's not the issue.

As part of thier out of court settlement with Marvel NCSoft agreed not to release an off line character creator. This saves Marvel the trouble of having to chase down anyone who created something and used it comercially in some way, and saved NCSoft a few (tens of thousands of) dollars in lawyers fees.


If most of these cases ever came to the line, Marvel would probably loose. However Marvel can afford to loose a few court cases, while the people they sue can't.


I really should do something about this signature.

 

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As part of thier out of court settlement with Marvel NCSoft agreed not to release an off line character creator. This saves Marvel the trouble of having to chase down anyone who created something and used it comercially in some way, and saved NCSoft a few (tens of thousands of) dollars in lawyers fees.

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they don't need NCsoft to do a commercial, tho, if you look at some adds, i can see that marvel isn't the only one.